We had that it was called Ultima Online LOL
Itâs relevant because youâre making a broad statement based on your preference. You find it boring but clearly many people enjoy it.
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I spent the whole day playing Fallout 4 and didnât log into Eve at all.
My go-to is GTA 5. That game will never get oldâŚ
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Thank you for being honest.
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Your Sand-Box isk/hr PvE quota is severely lacking and this problem must be addressed.
Donât forget the gankers can create alts and then destroy those alts in PvP to pad their own numbers. Does Zboard differentiate between player accounts using the same computer to destroy their own alts for the purpose of padding?
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You hit the nail on the head. 90% of the gankersâ kills are fake kills when they kill their own alt to pad their numbers.
If you read through what I wrote, then youâll understand that I donât think there is a problem with people enjoying the current PvE. However, this is a niche audience.
My problem is when people talk about PvE, as if this will bring in the mainstream audience or generally increase the playerbase. Objectively speaking, by comparing EvEâs PvE to other MMOâs PvE aspects, then EvE doesnât offer much, which is why the PvE have never been able to attract any crowds. The alternatives are just better.
It has nothing to do with my preferences. You guys just get so defensive about this, that you canât just have someone point out some negatives about aspects of the game you enjoy. Again, there is nothing wrong with you enjoying something, just understand that you are a minority and donât fool yourself thinking that a mainstream crowd would find this activity fun. Itâs fine to keep it as is, if EvE is just the niche game it has always been and stop pretending it is going to bring in new players.
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EVE will never see 100k+ players, no matter what you do. Hell, we probably will never even see 40k+ againâŚ
It just seems to me that what you want is CCP to sideline PvE and focus on PvP. You talk about niche audiences, the audience for forced PvP is clearly as small if not smaller than the audience for PvE.
If EVEs PvE is so unattractive, why do so many people engage in it? To me itâs part of a whole package, people get to PvE, they get to PvP, they get to play in the player-driven economy. All of it is important. The broader market does tend towards PvE though so being hyper-focused on PvP over all else seems like a mistake to me.
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EVE is first and foremost a PVP game. Thereâs no getting away from it. It doesnât matter what type of PVE activity you participate in, there is an element of PVP to it, whether you want it or notâŚ
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That really depends on your definition of âPvPâ. If you mean âevery aspect of EVE involves direct or indirect interaction with other playersâ then I agree. If you mean âAll of EVE is built around shooting other playersâ then I disagree.
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There is only one definition of PVP. Player Vs Player. It doesnât necessarily mean getting your ship blown up, but it is a definite possibility every single time you undock to engage in any activityâŚ
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Therein lies the problem. You think that PvP should mean that no matter what you are doing, someone can fly up and go âoh hey, you have to stop what you are doing and fight me, whether youâre fit to do it or notâ. And thatâs why CCP canât attract anyone from the current MMO market. People have less time for MMOs and a variety of choices in games to play, and playing a game where your enjoyment is subject to someone elseâs choice puts most players off.
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Then they are free to go play those other games that cater to that playstyle. If you cannot be attacked unwillingly, then itâs no longer a PVP game and you might as well be playing a single player game where you canât be attacked by other players like No Manâs Sky or Elite DangerousâŚ
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Trying to cater to the current generation of âplease donât hurt meâ gamers will only serve to dumb down EVE to the point that it is no longer EVEâŚ
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As Iâve said many times before, EVE is a niche game. Always has been, always will be. Even at itâs height, with Captains Quarters, Walking In Stations, the Fountain War, etc⌠we only had 65k players max. Even if CCP made high sec 100% safe and implemented walking in stations, we still wouldnât hit those numbers againâŚ
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