Can they really ?
I’m not the one pretending they can.
I can’t prove that something does not exist. That’s why the burden of proof is on you.
Let’s say they can gank him. So what ? They need to be present all the time at the entrance. With concord already present. Just the time for the criminal timer to wear off, he has already completed the site with another group of alts or another batch of ships. They just lost their ships and time for nothing.
There is a max lifespan of the incursion spawn. There is no way to extend the life spawn (about 4-6 days)
The Incursion communities are obviously incentivized to keep it going as long as possible as there are no rewards for ending it early.
There is no direct PVP involved in incursions unlike the trig invasions that I really liked. Where there was a PVP phase and that was really cool.
All honesty the incursion system is half thought through and needs to be gutted, reworked, or deleted and replaced with something better that both the gankers/agitators/hostiles etc. and the PVE carebears will be happy with because none of them want to budge.
Will it actually happen? Probably not, and just like the trig invasions content and pochven it is currently shelved gathering dust until CCP wants to revisit it.
The whole situation is sad and CCP has the tools to make this so much better for everyone.
I hope this clears things up 
Nobody cares for “what they want”. It’s not “their” MOM, it’s a public PvE site and anyone can run if for whatever reason. Those “Incursion runners” have not a single bit of ‘right’ to have their idea of constantly farming each Incursion to the max accepted by other players or even supported by CCP. Incursions are limited public PvE, it’s open for competition and whoever is faster wins. For some people their “win” is ISK, for others their “win” is profit denial for others. Perfectly legit.
Just because you don’t care, does not mean nobody does. also “not caring” is plain wrong, since grievers do that precisely because their target care about being grieved.
That is a perfect example of toxic troll. “I don’t mind it so it’s fine; nobody cares about people who disagree with me”. Egocentric liar.
Then just because you can run it to grieve, does not make it less grieving. Talking about “can” is a waste of time and red herring.
Lastly, you are the sole one talking about owning things, so you are completely off-topic in that regard.
haha so salty!
To be frank my opinion is better than your defeatist attitude and someone else should fix it,
Ah sry, forgot you are the semantic hair-splitter who argues almost semi-autistic about phrases and wordings until any meaning is lost. Well, I assume 99,3432% of the forum readers got the message. What the incursion runners “want” simply doesn’t matter, since it is a public site, open for anyone who wants to do it for any reason. If they want private content, they can run missions that are spawned only for them or do abyssals that they can spawn only for themselves. Farming away sites in other groups holes or even just triggering them to make them despawn quickly is daily business in WH space for example, nobody complains. These highsec isk-grinders just need to harden up and stop complaining. Be quick, be patient, be clever and foremost don’t offer public salt. Gankers would lose interest quickly. The Incursionrunners fail at all these points at once, no wonder why they end up being milked for salt. Nothing is greater in EVE than ruining someone elses plan, and it seems to work perfectly if they already cry to the game designers to change things in their favor.
I believe incursions make systems dangerous to travel through. The people killing the boss or whatever it is makes the game safer for everyone. This is a good thing.
Do I recall correctly that the guy doing all this offered to stop it if he gets paid or something? 
Because extortion is a legit form of piracy and completely valid and allowed gameplay style according to CCP as far as I’m aware. 
It’s obviously creating far more content than it’s killing, you normally have to go to visit a preschool to get this amount of senseless shrieking.
Don’t make sentence without a meaning to start with.
Because that is plain-autistic.
Well, THAT we can say that nobody cares.
Which they did not ask for, AFAIK. Some may have, but pretending that runners impacted by this griefing all want private content is plain BS.
They want content to run. That is, to play the game. Removal of the content for the sole reason to piss them is plain grieving.
Because that is not griefing. Also, that is not in HS. You are so wrong you need to use examples that have nothing to do with the topic…
Soup of toxicity.
Those won’t change a thing.
If your self satisfaction requires to ruin someone else, you have a Antisocial personality disorder - Wikipedia .
There is enough content to run, EVE is huge, they can decide daily what to do with their fleet. If they focus on just one activity and that is - unfortunately for them - a limited public site already ran by someone else, they face a self-made problem. They could simply use the same fleet they have, scan for a C6 WH and grind it for more money with a full-force operation. Or go to a L5 agent and blitz L5 missions in Lowsec under the protection of the power of their twodozen pimped marauders that nobody can easily engage. Oh well, that would lead them out of HS, scary bad things could happen, lets go complaining about “no content” and ask the Devs to fix their lack of courage. Ridiculous.
If blitzing the MOM is, taking away the sites in my home hole that I wanted to grind all for myself this evening also is.
HS has no special protection rules against other people doing public sites whenever they wish for whatever reasons they wish. It just has other rules of engagement in ship-vs-ship combat and besides that it’s as open for competition as any other area is.
Truth can feel toxic to the snowflake, true that. If they would just harden up a bit they could easily solve their problem or switch to other content with their blingfleet that would make them similar if not more money. But they are lazy and afraid. They feel entitled to max-farm their chosen content as long as they want and any interference is seen as “griefing”. But it isn’t.
Grow up Prof. Dr. Freir, we are playing a PvP game and ruining other players plans is it’s core functionality. If someone feels hurt, there is a easy shortcut (Alt+F4) that instantly ends his suffering.
We are actively encouraged to attempt to wreck the dreams of other players by CCP. Conflict drives the game, HTFU.
No they can’t. Stop making BS claims.
More toxic trolling.
No they could not.
The amount of BS that you spout is ridiculous.
Yes, it is if they do that to target you. So what ? Incursions are in WH system ? No they are not.
Then it should, thank you for acknowledging the issue.
Victim blaming is toxicity, period.
Now you are adding insults to … well to toxicity.
Nice show of antisocial personality disorder.
That’s just your opinion.
Grow up, your opinion is only yours to accept.
Yet there are rules to prevent that in HS typically. Like new player protection.
Except if I PvP you instead
What?
I literally havent ran an incursion in like 7 years. Theres plenty of content to run.
Why would incursions be included in new player protection? Are you saying there are rules to prevent groups from choosing to pop the MOM early in incursions?
Sure they can. All it needs it a Scanner and like 15-20 minutes and you have found an entry chain to some juicy C5 or C6. We run C5 and C6 content with fuckin’ T1 Battlecruisers and a handful Logis, with Pilots who barely can use T2 missiles. You wanna tell me the usual Incursionrunner Fleet of 5B Palas + Shitton of Guardians can’t do that? Ridiculous.
The only reason they “can’t” do it is because they ■■■■ their pants about having no local and the possibility that some Sabre warping into their site, bubbling their entire fleet. I can hear their teeth chattering from here.
Just more truth.
Sure they can. Just scan a hole, bring the fleet and give it a go. Profit awaits.
Doesn’t matter why they did run the sites, because when I log in they are gone and the outcome is the same: I can’t farm them any more and have to look for other content to make my ISK. Again, HighSec has no special protection rules for public content.
Incursion Runners are no new players that need protection. They are just ISK-grinders in overpriced blingships stupidly repeating all the same riskless Incursion Milking day after day after day. Nice to see that someone challenges them.
To be fair, the “content” they are referring to is the method of making obscene amounts of isk with very little to no risk at all.
So in a way, yes, the fleet cannot find “Content” because nothing else offers so much isk with so little risk. Its why i ran incursions back in the day.
Nope only in LS/NS where the pirates that gate camp get replaced with near instalocking Sansha NPCs and depending on the types can one shot you.
From my old and dated intel I was told some Russian group runs LS incursions. Probably the people who control Ardia because that’s were most of them spawn is Amarr LS.
