Not at all. I was simply relating the discussion to the rest of Eve’s activities. How mission or industry and other activities have other variables that impact their profitability and somethings worth is more complicated than the value estimate or current market trends.
A high supply and low demand item is devalued. Basing event loot value on periods of high supply and lower value is short sighted and reserved for people looking for quick ISK and quick selling.
Either way. Gala loot will increase in value unless something changes to increase the supply outside of the event time frame. Making current value estimations irrelevant and the choice to do said activities are purely speculative because we are unable to predict the future of the game state. So unless you have insider knowledge continue to troll away.
Called an opinion. You think something is not worth doing and say the value of an item is its value without taking into consideration price fluctuations.
Having something sitting in a cargo bay for however long is not an activity. It requires no activity on my part to leave it in a cargo bay. I can re-visit and consider selling it next time it comes to my attention.
Your opinion is they are not worth running because of no instant gratification in the ISK department.
My opinion and a few of the others above are that they are because the value of said items will rise and that it is a change in pace.
I think you are in the same boat as me, and bored at work… arguing for the sake of arguing on matters of opinion.
FYI.
Off topic. We are not talking about buying and reselling said items. How dare you relate this to a completely different activity than what we are discussing.
Nothing is wrong with relating something to other aspects of the game. You started that… not me.
No that’s not what I wrote.
I did not claim that you can’t speculate. I wrote, that the speculation over the price of the items you don’t sell is the same as investing on those items, and that therefore you should dissociate the value added by speculation, from the value of the farm.
Yes it is. If you keep them in order to wait for their price to raise, you are investing their value to have a benefit later, that is speculation.
No. I literally stated the opposite.
Yes we are.
If the investment in those items is not worth it, then there is no reason to not sell them.
We are talking about that, because people claimed that the value of the event should take into account the expected rise of the items that are dropped.
Please, learn to read. Don’t take terms out of the context, and don’t argue when you don’t understand the point.
No I mean lucrative right then and there, even with market saturation driving prices down.
Like many events spawned enough sites and had fast enough completion times that I could average between 8 and 15 sites/hr .
Now multiply 8-15 sites an hour by an average site value of 15-30 mil (immediate sell value), and you can see how that adds up to a decent isk efficiency.
Of course, I usually only sell stuff within the first day or two of an event, when prices are their highest, then consume, inject, save, or give away the rest.
And yes, 8 to 15 sites an hour during previous events was an accurate estimate for me. I dual box, have really good skills, and like to fly HAC’s (which, depending on the fit, have excellent travel times, damage, and damage application). A dual web Deimos used to be my go to ship, now it’s a spider tanked, dual web Ikitursa.
And for a specific example, Operation Conscious Interruption had the main loot drop ship spawn from get go, so you didn’t have kill anything else. He was also a cruiser that moved at MWD speeds, and who liked to pull range. All of this meant that, if you knew what you were doing, there was effectively zero chance for competitors or ninja looters to snake the loot drop. Anyway, I remember this event in particular, because I remember being proud of myself for striving for and hitting 15 sites in an hour.
So finally, yes, event sites can be (and have been) ubiquitous and still lucrative. And, I’m really not trying to be a dick here, but if they weren’t for you, then perhaps you need to examine your fits and/or execution.
The loot from normal sites (cruiser boss) was garbage. There was signatures that you needed to probe, that contained a BS instead of the cruiser. It could occasionally escalate to a site, that had 3 BS and 3 times fleets, and also three times the loot. The sigs were easy to do solo (vindi or bhaalgorn, or mach as I did with grappler and MWD ; also needed point otherwise the drifter BS would warp off), the escalation was quite harder (could not do them solo, had to bring in an alt).
I did a few cruiser sites, a few BS sites… and was making IIRC 3 times the value (per hour) in sigs. loots was the same in escalation, but much harder.
And there was more sigs available than anoms. I only got 3 IIRC escalations though.
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