Really?
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Lol your thread has become the hottest thing since breast implants!
Why are they so obsessed with you Lorelei?
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There was the idea floating around that the freighter gets into warp after a certain amount of time no matter when it is being bumped? I find that a bad solution to the problem… especially because it should be possible for a good bumper to keep the freighter bumped, but less than 150km away from the gate… which means the poor pilot would have to really be on the ball and warp somewhere else (if they are not just autopiloting and caught).
I do not like the options that go with “being able to just log off to avoid the problem”. I think the solution should lie in something that can be done within the game. The bumper is, after all, using valid game mechanics and has taken time to train (or buy… but that is another topic) skills and fit ships.
I don’t have a good solution to bumping. Collision damage when more than 20km from a gate or station? Sounds kind of wrong… The best thing that I came up with when thinking about bumping was my aforementioned “Caldari Navy Self Destruct” giving a non-afk pilot the ability to give up gracefully, destroy all his cargo and take a Pod Taxi home.
- firstly this module would need to be fitted (low slot of course… sacrificing cargo capacity).
- secondly the pilot would have to be prepared to use it, and take the financial losses involved.
Personally I don’t know many of my carebear cousins that would actively use the module… but the option would be there.
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Hell yeah! My Obelisk, The Fenrir (Flying dog poo), Providence and Charon. Freighter races from Jita to Uitra and back… lol.
Those were fun times… before the citadels made accepting contracts riskier than transporting implants in a rookie ship.
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That’s it? You nearly applied to a corp once?
Above, one of your strong supporters in this thread made a comment about another players knowledge of a part of gameplay:
Following that line of thought, how can you represent me and other haulers who use Freighters, as a “highsec candidate”, when you don’t have experience freighting in highsec that we can currently see?
Why should we trust that you can represent our gameplay adequately when there isn’t much apparent knowledge of it?
More broadly, how can you represent your campaign as a highsec reprsentative, when it’s not apparent that you can represent at least this one major gameplay stream of highsec play?
Or more broadly, what aspects of highsec play do you feel you can actually represent based on experience?
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I guess that is a matter of taste…
I can answer that question. Maybe I will make a blog post about it.
Have you read the other threads from years past? There is some good reading there too… in the same vein as this thread.
It is a sad fact that the more or less only high sec denizens that actually “care” about the game and their role in it are people like gankers. Sure there is the isolated industrialist or miner (but those usually get lost in the C&P whining threads). Every year the gankers / pirates swarm out and swamp the threads of candidates that are somewhat skeptical or not so very pro-ganking… and some of these candidates have disappeared under the pressure. Every year the thread derails somewhat focusing then only on the “ganking” issue, and ignoring everything else that is relevant for high sec, new players, player corporations, “none of the above” and whatever else I have talked about or tried to talk about.
It became quite clear (at the latest after the second year) that none of these ganker/pirate supporters are going to vote for me. I am sure they have better candidates. Conversely their posts and arguments/disucssions are not going to have any great effect on people who would vote for me, because:
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The majority of High Sec people that are going to vote for me don’t come and read the threads anyway. The few people that might come with an open mind and then decide not to vote for me because of this thread are (sadly enough) a negligible part of my votes. Most of my voters just vote because of “high sec” or have gotten their information from somewhere else other than the forums.
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The people that vote for me are actually happy that the more “ganker friendly” people are so upset about me, even though were I elected I would not actually be able to do anything actively to nerf ganking (the “war HQ” change coming to wardecs has been discussed since at least CSMX). In actual fact, having them posting here and being so persistent is better campaigning than I could do myself. “Look the gankers are mad! There must be something to this candidate” is a sentiment I have heard more than once. My thread gets handily bumped to the top of the campaign page, and there are lots of posts in it demonstrating that I am actually not so friendly to the ganking side of things.
It’s a funny old game.
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In what part of this thread has candidate shown to not have enough knowledge of gameplay?
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What data could I present to show my experience with freighters?
Are you a freighter user?
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You don’t need to present data. It’s telling that in response to a question asking for an outline of your experience hauling in highsec with a freighter, the thing you thought most critical to outline was that you applied to Red Frog once. Nothing more?
Do you see how that doesn’t answer the question at all? Applying to a Corp isn’t an outline of experience hauling with Freighters.
As someone who is still making up my mind on who to vote for, this is important, because hauling is a large part of what I enjoy in EVE and until recently, the only activity I really did in highsec.
Currently, despite representing your campaign as a “highsec candidate”, it doesn’t appear you can actually represent haulers at all, based on what experience you’ve outlined. Maybe there is more, but thanks for your answer to my question.
Daily.
Freighers, jump freighers, bowhead, orca, DST, blockade runners. Highsec, low, null and jspace. Red Frog and Black Frog and contracts through the haulers channel and general movements for my Alliance.
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If you are thinking about who to vote for, someone has done a lot of the work for you.
The main thing is to vote.
Edit for people that only read one line: Did you read all of that post?
You didn’t read the rest of that post?
Where I quoted myself from the Original Post and then went on talk about what you asked? The whole wall of text was a bit about me freighting and hauling… not just that one line about the Frogs.
If you are just going to take the first line of whatever I write and take that to be the whole answer… that is going to make this conversation difficult.
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Yes I did. It’s silly to tell someone what they did or didn’t do. That only sets you up to look foolish if you are wrong.
However, nothing in the remainder of the reply outlines any experience hauling with Freighters either. It outlines who cares about their playstyle and who votes for you.
It has things I agree with and things that I disagree with, but none of that is relevant to the question I asked, which relates to whether you’d be able to represent my interests, as someone who hauls daily, and goes more broadly to whether you can really represent highsec, or just a narrow set of gameplay within highsec.
That’s the type of information critical to deciding who to vote for across all of my accounts.
Thanks for the discussion. I think I have what I need now.
Please go back and read that reply where I start with the red frog thing. In that post I do not mention anything about people who vote for me (that was a later post)
Just please go back and read the entirety of the post I wrote to answer your question. It is literally only about me and hauling.
Yeo, you’re right. I mixed up a couple of posts in reading.
Thanks for the replies. I have enough information without taking up more of your thread.
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For people who don’t know the answer I will tell, as someone who actually uses regular freighter now and then in low sec: you need a scout, a webber, decent knowledge about locals (and preferably to be on decent standing with them - you don’t want to be actively hunted), cyno, cap fleet at standby. Only with all of these you can seriously use regular freighters in low sec - and even then you have to be vigilant at all times. I wouldn’t dare to move unwebbed freighter through low sec yet that is common practice in hisec.
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The standards are already different - a webber/scout alt (or friend) is all it takes in hs to be incredibly save as a hauler.
Intel also helps. When flying with one account you can always dock up and fly ahead in a rookie ship, then fly back to get the freighter. The rookie ship (or shuttle or whatever) can then be repackaged and put in the freighter for later use. If you use the available tools to see which systems are hot with ship destruction and so on… keep an eye on zkill (you can select the menu to just show freighter losses) and don’t autopilot through known hotspots (ie Uedama, Niarja…) then it is possible to be safe even on one account.
Of course it is also a bit slower… but slow and steady wins the race!
Yet if you make cocnord arrival times variable here is what will happen: alpha 'nado / bomber fleets will be used. Good luck saving freighters once that is the go to method of ganking.
All at once?
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