Can confirm, I also told CCP, publicly and privately, that us gankers would abuse SP extraction.
Nothing changed.
I’m too lazy to set up a ten account SP farm/free Omega gank fleet, so I don’t do it myself, but I have certainly coached others as to how to.
I’ve also stated publicly that every change over the last five years aimed at hindering ganking has instead forced gankers to professionalize more and cohere into larger, more disciplined, more effective groupings. Four years ago we mostly worked on our own or in small groups and seldom hit freighters - even Orca fryups were uncommon. Now we are forced to work together because solo gankers are so much weaker, and as a result we hit freighters more.
“Doesn’t bother?!?” I don’t think Concord just doesn’t bother. If they don’t show up at all something isn’t right. And you should file a ticket to at least find out what happened.
It’s a completely different thing that Concord show up after the kill, and your too dead to see it.
I am talking about an exploit that results in them not getting shot by gate guns too, so one of the results would be no wreck on grid which people can verify.
Oh do tell, some more useless out of context twadlle for me to point out as being wrong and of course your showing your own axe and trying badly to grind it.
I don’t need to file a ticket, This is how concord works. If the ship they were due to turn up to destroy dies before their response time, they don’t spawn. It’s worked this way for as long as I can remember. This is the sensible way for it to work as it means fewer NP{C ships in space and less work for the servers. This not a bug or an exploit, it’s how the damn game works.
Hes talking about something other than what he pulled you up on, even though he pulled you up on this specific thing he claims though neither of you mentioned it until he did.
Which coincidentally leaves no evidence.
Which by the way he describes it is a bug being exploited and so should be reported itself, and not the person who ganked you unless you can prove a wreckless gank occurred, apparently.
Stop talking about this mysterious ‘exploit’ and put your damn cards on the table if you want people to take you seriously. I’ve explained clearly how you can end up legally in a situation you describe as reportable. I’ve even outlined the steps for anyone who wants to test this for themselves ( and I encourage those who wish to learn to do so, often people will discuss mechanics dishonestly, as drac is here, trust your own work.). You have nothing.
And this tells me that you don’t know how concord works, because that is exactly what happens if you get volleyed by gateguns as you go criminal.
I will elaborate: If you go criminal concord despawns somewhere in system and after a certain period of time, depending on the security status of the system, it respawns at your location to kill you. If there is no target for concord, because the gateguns have already killed it, concord will not spawn.
See every untanked arty thrasher that ganks something on Jita 4-4, they never spawn concord.
On the other side a tornado has enough hitpoints to survive the station guns for long enough, so concord will arrive.
So, you are claiming that we can point and hold a freighter long enough for someone to get a bump, and then magically vanish? note that your discussion of wrecks didn’t occur until after I called out your initial post
‘If you are a freighter and you get pointed and CONCORD does not arrive following the criminal point you should immediately report the person who pointed you because he has done something illegal.’
As being wrong, so now you’re moving the goalposts towards god knows where.
Gankers aren’t cheating drac, we just know the game and the mechanics far far better than you.
Just a more concise statement based on my first one.
Self congratulation again, I am in awe of your brilliance, of course ganking is not cheating, putting words in my mouth again, sigh, in fact doing this exploit is actually pretty dumb, but that’s gankers for you!
So let me get this straight, you’re talking about a case where someone goes criminal to point a freighter and is neither concorded nor catches gategun fire?
Because in my nearly 4 years of ganking I have never seen that.
Blockquote ‘If you are a freighter and you get pointed and CONCORD does not arrive following the criminal point you should immediately report the person who pointed you because he has done something illegal.’
Also this is wrong because as both Terribly concerned citizen and me have explained to you that is absolutely not the case. If you die to gateguns before concord arrives, there will be no concord.
Frankly I find it rather disturbing you would tell people to blanket report others for things you seem to have a flawed knowledge about.
But Im betting that was another of his infamous half-finished sentences that when you pull him up on it he explains it wasnt what he meant and you should feel bad for not guessing what he was thinking.
When this exploit is used the gate guns will do nothing, simple but you lot seem to miss that fact, this also negates the gate guns. There is no wreck on grid, simple.
But thanks gankers for enabling me to improve the statement.
If you are a freighter and you get pointed and CONCORD does not arrive following the criminal point and more importantly if there is no wreck on grid from the criminal you should immediately report the person who pointed you because he has done something illegal.
