So does the opportunity for war in the first place, rely on consent of the defender. War can be completely avoided. 100% safe from the mechanics.
Opting into wars is a deliberate choice.
Now you want to provide an opt-out for the defender, when it already exists, and the defender who stays is not bound by some limited idea of what victory is. They can decide the conditions for themselves and force them if they apply themselves to achieving whatever outcome they see as victory.
That’s the way it should be. Players decide, not mechanics.
If you have such a difficult time with having war declared on you at all, stay in the NPC corps and build your wealth and skill until you are ready.
The proposal is for people who have the wherewithal to not only form a corp but to defend it. The lacking element is a point to doing so. Unless your only reason for forming a corp was to wardec others, there isn’t really a point to fighting a war that you can’t win.
No it doesn’t need to be a “balance”. EVE is a PvP game. Zero-risk PvE farming should not exist.
You pay a monthly fee to get told you can’t play because someone has had time to set up something you can’t even think about defending against.
And this is the problem with pathetic farmers like you. You’ve defined yourselves as victims before the fight even begins, declaring that you can’t possibly fight back because you’re a “PvE player” and if you can’t farm with 100% safety you’re going to quit.
So, please do quit. Do it ASAP. EVE does not want you.
You were talking about getting info only available from their client, having knowledge of all their alts and stalking them on forums, and making their lives a constant hell. Not the same thing.
What you can do if they don’t consent is wreck their **** until they do consent. Every time they undock your gank fleet is waiting and they either die or go right back into station. If they slip up and reveal any of their other characters those characters get the same treatment. After being camped into station for a while I’m sure they will change their mind about consenting to an end to the war. In fact, at that point the question becomes whether or not YOU consent to an end to the war, or if you’d prefer to keep the war going as retaliation for the initial attack.
“Eve doesn’t want you you mean,” Zero tolerance for others and a non understanding of the word balance which is a mechanism in all MMO games which you clearly don’t grasp for a second. But you must have you way like spoilt child lol
Out of game intel is only limited to killboards if you aren’t very creative. Why haven’t you put a spy alt into their corp and gained access to their corp forums/voice chat/etc? Have you checked their EVE forum history to see if they accidentally replied to a discussion with their main? Have you checked killboards to see if they appear in fights with their other characters? Have you tried using your spy alt to befriend them out of game and see if they admit to any connections you can exploit? Etc.
Oh wait, you don’t want to do any of that, you just want to press your “go back to RMT farming” button.
EVE is a PvP game. PvE-only play is not an option. It has been this way since day one, as a core part of EVE’s design concept. Any “balance” that includes opting out of PvP is not an acceptable option, and will not be included. If you don’t like this then EVE is not the game for you, please GTFO.
Apparently not, because you don’t get it no matter how many times you’ve had it explained to you. Every player/corp has a point where they will consent to ending the war. That is your path to victory. The fact that you are a PvE farmer and permanent victim who is unwilling and/or unable to fight back does not mean that CCP owes you an easier path to victory.
You’re right, it isn’t a discussion. It’s a stated principle of EVE’s game design, coming straight from the people who own EVE. EVE is a PvP game and there will never be a PvE-only option. If you don’t like it then GTFO.
Getting your eve ships blown up also does not make your life a constant hell… but then every stalker ever tried to play it off “I just wanted to talk to them…”
I’d not expect obsessive psychopaths to understand the difference though.
You are talking about befriending people IRL to make their life a constant hell over a video game, and you think that’s totally common, normal and acceptable. Who can say where you will stop?