You can’t do that now. I mean you can but you would have to disengage indy core first without which orca is pretty much a useless flying brick now.
And frankly if you are not into moon mining you wouldn’t need an orca in the first place. Porpoise is disposable and can run compression and buffs just as happy. Okay, you will lose like 5-10% yield on weaker buffs but it is up to you now to balance your risk/reward
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I agree the core turns it into a dead weight.
Good Lord… you’ll reach for anything in an attempt to prove yourself right. Unfortunately you’re wrong because there is a big practical difference.
The plain fact is that WarDec in High Sec space is sanctioned by Concord making it legal whereas ganking isn’t.
Most players don’t at all care for any role-playing considerations that are the basis of your argument here. They don’t care that some imaginary video game space police force “sanctions” one type of attack in “space that should be safe,” but not another.
To an Orca pilot, for example, it makes zero practical difference whether they get suicide-ganked by Wrathful Hawk…
…Or get scouted out and destroyed by me during a war:
In both cases, the net effect is exactly the same: the target suffers a loss in an area of space where they didn’t “expect” to be attacked, leading to them experiencing significant sadness and grief from the non-consensual PvP interaction imposed upon them against their will.
These “AGs” do what they do because they are against the net effect that their targets’ actions have on other players, and not because they’re role-playing a CONCORD unit. To that end, they should be treating me the exact same way that they treat gankers, but they don’t. Why is that?
It’s not about “being right” in this case, as there’s no debate being held. All I’m doing is pointing out that a group of players who have made it their mission to engage in an “anti-grief” play style that is outside of role-playing considerations selectively performs activities that target one play style over another purely because the former is more safe and convenient for them than the latter.
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Githy can you come sit next to my Orca while I mine?
That sounds like fun content for you?
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maybe shout ganker alert on coms
very useful wen netflixing 
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We could make it into an event.
All the gankers come out and AFK mine to plex their accounts, and the antigankers will keep watch and make sure nobody ganks us.
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Carebears are violent in their own way, yesterday I got banned from a channel just because I mentioned that a gate camp killed an Atron and an Obelisk, I didn’t even say names or linked kill reports, I just mentioned it
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Did you provide a trigger warning before you did? Those channels are “safe space,” and you need to alert participants before saying something that can potentially be traumatic, like for example mentioning illegal non-consensual video game PvP real-life bullying.
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I didn’t warn anyone!
How did you perfectly guess everything? I guess it i because the pattern is too strong these days.
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You will have triggered their PTSD. The mere mention of such an evil act will require major therapy incurring much plex buying and station hugging, followed by screaming and running like little girls as soon as a flashy red enters the system.
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Heya friendo. I gotta ask - why not run the nirvana pod like you suggest?
You may find it helpful to have a web ship in the ship bay of the orca too - if you keep the Hulk close by, you can swap out for the webber if trouble lands in system
Very true. I also kept warning Gith about how when they don’t stick to an RP doctrine, it undermines everything they do.
Don’t be a meanie. Use an alt whose sole purpose in life is to be webber
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As I said before I don’t understand what you really mean by undermine, and which group thinks we are undermining.
Our ROE is straightforward, kill criminals when we can, if a person is helping criminals he can be attacked too. Use any legitimate game mechanic to achieve this. Support any person that does not want to take part in pvp other than bots. Gankers can have the bots.
I always find it strange which groups of people get offended by some of our actions, which surprisingly are the very people we end up fighting in game, or have run ins with or they see us as potential threat.
I also acknowledge that some give us helpful advice to try and make us more effective in what we do or lead us to new areas in eve
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It isn’t so much as offense as you weren’t keeping in line with your stated goals and RP.
Again, you can play EVE however you want. But your actions weren’t lining up with your words, hence why people were skeptical.
Conversely, the reason why Aiko isn’t viewed skeptically is her actions align with her RP.
Again, there are several resources online for you to utilize if the RP route is one you want to go on.
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And yet you don’t actually do this, because you completely ignore all of the war-declaring, suspect-baiting, gate-camping, and can-stealing griefers who force other players into taking losses via non-consensual PvP.
Not sure when my actions deviated from hunting criminals in empire space or helping people in need of assistance from null Bully Boys. Please do point any out
LOL it has been plenty of times.