seriously 219 replies, dont use an orca, use covetor and purpoise, they are fine for the task, casual play mining should be
Nullbears
Not if they credit card warriors
I sent 150 Bil to the Hawk crew for their Orcageddon crusade and i have to admit that, considering the isk/fun ratio, it was my best investment ever. We must rid our asteroid fields of all those insufferable bots.
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If youâre set on going out to mine with an Orca/Hulk combo you have to accept that if you spot danger youâll have at most a good 3,5 minutes to get out of dodge depending on your skills, fit and how lucky you are with when your core started another cycle.
The keyword here being âspotâ. If you spot the danger only when a ganker shows up in local with you. You got to be really lucky to get out in time. If you could somehow spot them prior to them showing up in your system it increases the likelihood of getting out in time.
You could also further hamper a gankers ability to apply damage by spawning CONCORD in the belt you mine yourself. With them on grid they are faster. And if you notice them being drawn out it could also function as an early warning to an imminent gank attempt.
Best thing is to cooperate with others, share intel on the enemy movements and adapt accordingly.
If a system becomes to âhotâ switch to a Porpoise instead. Or mine in a Venture.
Inexperience is a good excuse to fall victim to a gank. Learn and move on. However, often its stubborn greed that holds miners back to adapt. So they remain gank fodder for those willing and able to capitalise on that.
But overal. Cooperation with others is the best solution.
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When in station youâd see a large âUndockâ button.
DO NOT PRESS IT
But in all seriousness you do not prevent ganking. If people want you dead you will be murdered, you just make it as difficult as possible so not worth the trouble.
Such as
- Do not mine in systems on major spacelanes between hubs
- Every 5 jumps from Jita reduce the probability of your death by half
- Do not mine anywhere in The Forge
- Fit as much tank as possible
- Mining moons makes it (slightly) more annoying to jump on you
- DO NOT MINE IN THE FORGE
- Isolated highsec pockets are slightly safer from ganking as it is a logistical nightmare to haul large quantities of ships there
- Gankers are less active in more desolate regions such as Devoid, Khanid, Molden Heath
- Have some robust intel, cooperate with others to warn each other, and use maps and zkill to spot any ganking activity, avoid places where ganking is particularly widespead
That is some of the lowest quality bait every. Are you a poorly scripted bot?.
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Attempt to mine in Jita, in spite of no belts. Got it. o7
Thanks for the advice! Off to see a fireworks show now (not really, itâs insanely late and I should be asleep like 6 hours ago⌠also I donât even have an Orca)
How quaint. Gankers and broader donât deserve to be in the same sentence.
You nailed it again!
And?
Ganking is a perfectly legitimate game style 
As is mining. And the risk that it comes with
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Itâs not about a learning ship although itâs great for that. You pick a ship for itâs role, we can spend about 2 mill on these ships and they do the job, so why use say a faction frig that cost 25 mill and you get no more advantage.
I do find it funny that people criticise us for using a cheap effective ship, when the very people we fight use the cheapest ship possible too.
A group of skill pilots positioned on a gate would stop a canât fleet ever getting to an orca or would reduce itâs effectiveness to kill said ship.
We donât care about kb stats our aim is to stop criminals and if that means using npc police to make the kill why we hold them then thatâs what we do
And as for Destiny to criticise our killboard, well sheâs a merc war decer that uses blink ships to kill haulers. Remember KB are everything to a merc
And the only thing about hawk that he proves is his ability to spend money on griefing Orca, for a flimsy pointless reason, thatâs a skill I donât wish to have.
Ps to everyone if your ever fighting gankers, kill the pods, they sometimes forget to change into an empty one when
ganking, you end up with a very bling pod indeed. Some groups never have implants others do.
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Put a Higgs Rig/WMD practice putting down bookmarks and always be heading to them. put a web on a hulk or use web drones to increase the turn rate BUT most of allâŚwatch local chat for spikes and use D-scan. remember you can setup âpvpâ in fleet so you can web without issues or duel the orca w/e works for you.
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So if Iâm basically doing the same thing that gankers do, how come youâre not protecting them from me?
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War decs are a legal way to fight, you know Iâm all for that
pro tip in case of @Destiny_Corrupted fight
vigorously compliment her until she does that
GTFO
ps: you have to be kinda of a chad , and this technique only works in specifics days of the month
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One more trick would be to have a pilot in a cheap frig setup for e-war burst, now you may take a small security hit but it could save an orca, we have saved freighters and mining ships this way many times.
In fact if any miner wants cover for their orca and we are available id be happy to help, just mail me in game with title Ew burst.
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Bad idea.
Join in on the zmail thatâs something I could do.
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I would just have to flash my 
MAGICAL CAT TIME WITH DESTINY ,
get out of jail card and warp away!
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That makes absolutely no sense. Thereâs no practical difference between paying a 100 million ISK fee and then shooting some haulers, or spending 100 million ISK on some Catalysts and then shooting some haulers, and maybe purchasing some clone soldier tags afterwards. In both cases, the haulers are being shot without their consent.
It sounds like youâre cherry-picking your battles while trying to pretend to be cops. If you were concerned for players becoming the targets of âgrief,â youâd go after the two types of attackers equally.
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That really doesnât make any sense. (oh okay, Destiny already wrote the same 
)
Did you mean that, unlike gankers, you cannot legally attack her?
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