Look, Done25, you’re talking to a Ganker. Do you presume to inform me of the cost of ganking? I know it already!
There are indeed costs associated with the sport, but it was never my intention to retain a healthy balance sheet. EVE is my hobby - I spend on my hobby what I can afford to spend.
Upsetting miners is simply a consequence of the activity, in the same way that the demolishing of a Veldspar asteroid is a consequence of the activity of…mining.
Ganking for profit alone is hard work. I salute Our Princess for her efforts in that regard. I’m sure you do the same.
not a slow leaner just find everything you say pretty stupiud you are ovbioulilsy a greifer and I am willing to bet some of youre alts have been on this forum
It depends on 1) if you lost a ship or not and 2) if you’re able to cope with the ship loss (ISK-wise, mentally, etc). That will greatly influence the definition of both terms:
People comfortable with the game’s reality of ship loss will most likely call all combat interactions (whether or not both parties use weapons) simply PvP, regardless of where the combat interaction took place.
Those uncomfortable with it will call it 1) ganking and 2) non-consensual, 3) flood particular forums with new threads on the subject, 4) demand changes from the game developer, 5) come up with game breaking suggestions that are mostly self-centered, 6) import the real world into the discussion and 7) repeat everything the next day.
In essence, do not expect a consensus on the definitions on these forums…
You’re talking about ganking, but some of the things you say indicate either that you haven’t done any ganking or that you haven’t properly researched the subject. It therefore falls to gankers to offer alternative points of view.
If you are attacking ganking or gankers, then anything I say to correct or inform you is likely to appear defensive. Don’t attack, and I won’t feel bound to defend!
Ask questions instead, and you’ll receive answers. Doing so will take the sting out of the exchange. It’s all on you, sunshine.
It is strange though, Done25. I started in 2013, with The Code and James 315, ganking, bumping, permit-selling - the whole shebang. I didn’t meet any fellow-scallywags whose primary motive was making miners weep.
There was exuberance, laughing at fail-fit Mackinaws, smack-talk in local, all the usual stuff. Salt-farming was a thing, of course, but it was always a consequence of whatever activity was under consideration, and not, I maintain, the goal of the activity.
If I understand you correctly, you’re asking why choose ganking over some other activity involving ship-shooting?
I think it’s just that I got ganked (actually in Lowsec, so not strictly a gank) not long after starting the game, and found it exciting. Funnily enough, the same thing happened to James 315, and our response to the event seems to have been the same. A determination to imitate the assailant!
There was a whole culture around ganking at that time, which made me feel part of something larger, significant. In other words, it’s what many EVE players might say of their chosen activity.
I can only speak about other gankers that I know or have known, so there might be outliers among us, but in general - as a group - we’re just happy playing a video game.
