How orca miners are going to Plex their accounts after the mining changes?

Fake news again. Prove your point with facts, stop the claims.
Procurer shield is down 1/6
Procurer structure hp is down 1/11
No change to armor
No change to resistance profile

Get your facts here (+ go on Sisi):
https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/aws/community/FromExtractionToProduction.xlsx

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The “per level” thing, I’ve already provided the numbers with a level 5 Mining Barge character. See my first reply to your fake news.

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Already do that, I was just debunking Mr Fake News.

Please. I can sense the semi mullet up-do from here.

The cringe is real. I get you think you sound smart but using that term makes you sound the opposite :smiley:

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So is the per level thing “fake news” or not?

Except what you admitted was changed right?

Thank you for the fact-based summary. It’s a refreshing change from the blowhards who yap all day to make sure they get noticed. I appreciate your detailed comparison. It’s odd how often CCP says they’re doing one thing but when you check the actual results, they’re not in line with the hype.

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Yes you are off on shield and it is not 30% per level for armor, but 6%… now, just the way you phrased it. But still fake news because inaccurate on shield, lol

If you understand what is going on from my first reply: fake news on your claim that it is going to be more tanky. No, it is not.

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No change to resistance profile. I’m right on that.
You argued on resistance bonus.
Read

CCP said they’re going to be adjusting barge EHP up after all the recent tears. Pretty sure the specifics haven’t been released yet.

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Tell me. What is 2x5 and 6x5?

You are off I said.
Where do you get your “2” ?
It is 6, as per the Excel Sheet. (I don’t know if it changed from 2 weeks ago, I just comment based on what I see today)
Have you read it ?

Yet, less tanky, not “far more tanky”

Current per level bonus 4 % proposed per level bonus 6%

Now here is where the math gets hard.

4+y=6

I asked if it was updated because this
significantly increase the EHP of all barges and all exhumers as well as their mining yield

doesn’t add up to what you are seeing. Thats why I asked.

That’s the funniest bit of fiction that I’ve ever read in these forums…

I can smell the PSL from here man…

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“significantly” is clearly not for “all”. For the non tanky based barge/exhumers, maybe. Didn’t check for those, not interested.

It is basicaly unchanged for the Procurer when unfitted (at level 5 Mining barge, at least). And it get worse (tank) however you want to fit it.

As for yield, yes, it is noticeable at level 5, even if you use the same modules in the low slots (meaning mining laser upgrades). Of course, the Procurer can get even more yield if someone takes benefit of the extra low slots, but then your tank suffer even more. And technically, you don’t use a Procurer for yield. At least on TQ. The proposed changes might change it’s use however. I acknowledge that.

For a small ship that got it’s weight doubled, it clearly doesn’t show with its lower tank.

Fake news again. You can’t even get what is on TQ right.
TQ : Per Mining Barge level : 5% bonus to ship shield hitpoint
Sisi (and Excel sheet) : Per Mining Barge level : +6% shield hitpoint

Yet, less tanky, not “far more tanky”, especially with shield.

5% bonus to ship shield hitpoints

thats on SiSi right now.

You refer to the “Show info” / Traits tab?
I think they didn’t update any of them.
But as per CCP Psych, they pushed all the changes.

Confirmed : 6% proposed change is on Sisi, not 5% as current on TQ

On a non barge pilot with Shield Management level 2 (10% increased to shield, the fitting window will assume you have level 1 for the ship, even if you don’t have the skill (normal behavior, already like that on TQ)

Base shield on Sisi without bonus or skills : 5000
Level 2 Shield Management 5000+ 500 = 5500
Level 1 Mining Barge (simulated) : 5500 + 6% = 5830

So the changes are there, they just didn’t updated the Traits tab and Info bubble