How to increase eve player count

[Aedaxus]

@Perkele_Penken

Companies like Wargaming , Sandbox Interractive, etc. they are still doing very well with F2P model .

Oh look, you can but PREMIUM instead of Omega. Literally on their website. https://albiononline.com/en/shop/

@Perkele_Penken

the rotten persons who run this company.

Not so bad as you are still around here so i guess that tells me a lot about your moral compass.

[Aedaxus]

@Perkele_Penken

you don’t need any of that to be competitive and it’s 100% free to play !

You can mine gas in a Venture and make a lot of profit. However it requires you to use your brains, not like the children’s games you reference to. Just wait like 10 years, then come back. You still have a lot to learn, young padawan.

@Perkele_Penken

why CCP is having problems with player retention …

Because it’s for smart people that take their time to play the game. Kinda like chess. Not fun for most people but challenging for others. As with chess playing against another players instead of a NPC makes it even more enticing!

[Quor_Dresden]

Na, let’s add build a base on planets. Kinda like no man’s sky, mine craft, or fortnite. Make it all safe and cozy for about 6 month to a year.

Then add an update that brings in planet bombardment for battle cruises and larger with no risk.

That will increase targets, oh I mean player base.

[Perkele_Penken]

@Aedaxus

Oh look, you can but PREMIUM instead of Omega.

Premium is not a necessity . What premium gives you is extra 50% more experience and credits that you make in battles. Now if you are a good player and actually have competent skills , you get more experience and credits in battles than the average player that buys premium .
The difference is that in Eve you have to get omega status to fully enjoy all of the game features, while in World of Warships you don’t need premium account for that , you have access to everything even without premium.

@Aedaxus

Just wait like 10 years, then come back. You still have a lot to learn, young padawan.

I’ve been here since 2008 , got my first titan in 2010 . Stopped playing after The Fountain War in 2013 , the last great year for Eve Online . I was in the golden era of this game , a game that basically died after the Casino War in 2016.

@Aedaxus

Because it’s for smart people that take their time to play the game. Kinda like chess.

Says the F1 goon monkey with a ■■■■ killboard and only 8 solo kills since 2006 and in a crap corporation while in GSF on top of that.

@Aedaxus

As with chess playing against another players instead of a NPC makes it even more enticing!

" LUL , u wot m8 ??? "
Games like Albion or WG ones, have more PvP in them atm , than Eve can never dream of …

Go troll on the GSF forum on the shitpost section where you belong.

[Xeux]

@Mr_Epeen

I have a feeling that if she ever sees this post, things are going to be pretty lively around your place.

False. She plays all sorts of games. Usually games that involve growing flowers and designing dresses. I don’t think she would list “uninterested in (virtually) attacking people to take their stuff” as one of her shortcomings.

[Mr_Epeen]

Fair enough. But I’m a little hurt that you think my feelings… MY feelings… are false.

I’m off to have a little cry now.

Mr Epeen

[Natalie_Patrovita]

@Xeux

False. She plays all sorts of games. Usually games that involve growing flowers and designing dresses. I don’t think she would list “uninterested in (virtually) attacking people to take their stuff” as one of her shortcomings.

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[Grimm_Reborn]

@Natalie_Patrovita

noun.

-something that provides mirth or amusement:
A picnic would be fun.

verb. (used with or without object)
funned, fun·ning,
Informal. joke; kid.

adjective, fun·ner, fun·nest.

Informal. of or relating to fun, especially to social fun:a fun thing to do; really a fun person; the funnest game.

Informal. whimsical; flamboyant:The fashions this year are definitely on the fun side.

SYNONYMS FOR FUN
Merriment, pleasure,gaiety

So clever.

Let me rephrase. Define FUN in Eve.

[Grimm_Reborn]

@Perkele_Penken

while in World of Warships you don’t need premium account for that

Another game where the developers don’t know what they are doing and has been in decline for many years. At least that is what their forum says… CVs anyone? How about subs?

[Snowflake_Sally]

@Kaleic_Karrif

So I have been playing on and off since 2012. The number 1 thing I can say that would of kept my interest earlier on would of been shorter skill times for getting into pvp Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers

I believe by cutting down train time on Frigate tech 2, small guns tech 2 and basic piloting skills, Including armor and shield tank skills for small and medium ships, you could increase player count.

Also Scarcity doesn’t fix anything it just changes the economy, you created a player base economy,

The economy will always right itself to economic changes , so I don’t understand the point of scarcity.

Beyond that making training more tailored for pvp experience and pointing players in that direction early on would be beneficial.

I was 1 of those players who were scared to venture into lowsec and nullsec until I understood the mechanics. They aren’t blatantly clear, yes you can die. But people don’t understand coming in early the totality of that. Put a training mission. In give them a Shiney cheap ship and make sure they lose it, then make them earn it back.

The moral here is for the proliferation of the game stop pushing people to buy more plex and start attracting more players to eve, through making the game play easier to get into for new players, once you have a surge in new players demand for plex will increase

I approve this message.

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[Perkele_Penken]

Be honest to yourself , you can say the exact same thing about the devs of Eve Online . You can tell that by reading all of the patch notes of the last 5 years of stupid implemented changes.
Every game faces these kind of problems.

[Natalie_Patrovita]

@Grimm_Reborn

So clever.

You did ask for the definition, lol

@Grimm_Reborn

Let me rephrase. Define FUN in Eve.

Sure:
Mining, manufacturing, P.I, FW, Ratting, ganking, Hauling, WH runs… but - and here is the twist - without anything nerfed, with ALL the changes of the the past 10 years wiped out

[Snowflake_Tem]

open source ten year old code-base… that is an entertaining idea.
but that is not EVE. This is EVE.

It’s fine, there is no player count problem, just the usual graph interpretation issues in an abnormally abnormal world.

[Natalie_Patrovita]

@Snowflake_Tem

It’s fine, there is no player count problem, just the usual graph interpretation issues in an abnormally abnormal world

I was replying to @Grimm_Reborn about fun in EVE, not about “player count problem”, or did you tag me by mistake?

[Grimm_Reborn]

@Natalie_Patrovita

Sure:
Mining, manufacturing, P.I, FW, Ratting, ganking, Hauling, WH runs… but - and here is the twist - without anything nerfed, with ALL the changes of the the past 10 years wiped out

So you want to play a stagnate game? I have an old copy of Homeworld someplace. Maybe that would be more enjoyable for you? Gameplay hasn’t changed in years.

[Natalie_Patrovita]

@Grimm_Reborn

So you want to play a stagnate game?

Is that what EVE was like 10yrs ago, a stagnate game?
And when I say “with ALL the changes of the past 10 years wiped out” I certainly don’t mean the technological improvements in the game but only the changes CCP did regarding gameplay for and by the players.
Why in the Hell would I want to play an online game with technology from 10 years ago?? Is y’all just nuts or misunderstanding me on purpose?
Hmm, yea maybe it’s both.

[Grimm_Reborn]

@Natalie_Patrovita

Why in the Hell would I want to play an online game with technology from 10 years ago?? Is y’all just nuts or misunderstanding me on purpose?
Hmm, yea maybe it’s both.

You are the one crying for the “nerfs” to be reversed without specifying what that means. Seems like another no risk, all reward player.

[Natalie_Patrovita]

@Grimm_Reborn

Seems like another no risk, all reward player.

Yea, SEEMS is correct.

[Aglarond]

I don’t understand where all the players went. I ended up coming back about a week ago and the game seems empty… Jita doesn’t even lag, which has not been the case since… well ever really.

I only have 30-60 minutes every few days to play so I am going through a mission / exploration phase at the moment and looking through the new content. I think if there were going to be improvements that bring in newer players, it would have to be on the PvE side of things. I know that is somewhat against the grain for Eve Online, but it is true. Players of most games today play for shorter periods than they used to. The days of roaming or gate camping for 4-6+ hours a day are gone for most of us. I saw the effects of this in 0.0 just the other day. I went 30 jumps each way without encountering a single gate camp. I even took the same way back that I went in. That is just weird…

[Xeux]

They got rid of mining, but it didn’t seem to affect the player count.
They added nullsec ESS. Some people left, but it was hard to tell how many because there was a nullsec war that offset it.
Then they made some crazy industry changes. People might be leaving over that, but it is gradual, so it is hard to get a count.
They changed interdiction nullification and about 3000 stopped playing that day.
Then they tinkered with cloaking. Right after that another 3000+ stopped logging in.

Or, it could just be the normal summer slump, nothing to worry about.