Thank you. Very appreciated
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Your name isn’t Kirsten Beyer or Kemp Powers? Because it sure sounds like you write for Star Trek Discovery. Is the EVE warp tunnel the byproduct of giant space microbes? Nevermind, I don’t need an explanation, I like it when I can turn off my logical brain and enjoy good science fiction. Shows like Trek try to explain too much too often. I really enjoyed the speech Dominar Rygel XVI gave in Farscape’s “I Shrink Therefore I Am” when Sikozu and Rygel were caught, shrunken, and placed in a container.
Sikozu: Don’t you see? No. No! This isn’t happening because it is not possible.
Rygel: Your brain isn’t functioning. Do you think this is all just a hallucination? Do you like that explanation better, hmm?
Sikozu: No, but I simply cannot comprehend-
Rygel: Neither can I. Who cares? We’re here, they did it, and that’s that. You consider yourself intelligent?
Sikozu: Yes, I do.
Rygel: Then stop behaving like a child.
Sikozu: I am not a child!
Rygel: No, you’re an infant! You’ve studied but you haven’t experienced. You know nothing of life!
Sikozu: And you do?
Rygel: I’ve been around long enough to know how ignorant I am. I don’t assume the universe obeys my preconceptions. Huh! But I know a frelling fact when it hits me in the face!
Not currently, I was transferred to Strange New Worlds.
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Shame.
You you take The Lower Decks to a whole new level.
So it’s settled then.
CCP will immediately start work on making D-Scan automatic based on the crutial player feedback contained in this thread.
I am confident that, in the future, CCP will demonstrate as much interest in a discussion about game mechanics as this thread attests.
Next on the Agenda: Permanently eliminate griefing, also know as Ganking.
Just joking 
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I feel there is nothing wrong with how d-scan has worked fine and is working fine.
What I would suggest, as some have as well, would be to add “mini games” where I will take mining as an example as something that is most tedious. For mining there could be a separate window that opens once you start your lasers, and if you keep your mouse over a moving globe your mining lasers would be “focused better” which would increase/shorten your yield, where most skilled players would get double if not triple the yield, thus rewarding active gameplay.
Also you could opt out of the “mini game” and still get the normal yield as before, or maybe even give them 50% as to promote more active gameplay of the said activity
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Okay. I do know. You have a very large number of things in some systems. D-scan initiates a distance call to all of them, and displays the results. Stackless python, which EVE is written in, doesn’t handle those with a particular grace. Each one is a technologically limited 32 FLOPs as a low point, with perfect data handling and compare. Per. Object in system. A ship with 5 drones out? 6 of those calls. And it’s not likely that it is that perfect 32 FLOPs, it is likely 10-100x that in well written code, and much more if D-scan has been a complaint about it being poorly written. And each call for a d-scan, being from a different origin point, is another of these massive calculation crunches that scales with number of objects in system.
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Good ideas.
But that last part, it doesn’t look to me that CCP likes giving bonuses. The way everything is measured in .001 tells me they are not generous for a cent.
Look at the forum also. When someone says he cannot afford something the Squad will come down and ridicule him. That attitude isn’t discouraged by CCP.
You could hope for 0.10% bonus. I wouldn’t hold my breath though.
Or use a snorkel, lets be honest your going to need compression tanks and scuba gear. Or Better, and old school dive bell.
Nah, I just stay out the water. Have you seen that video of that Russian young man being eaten by a shark on a North African coast tourist spot? Just horrible.
It’s only pools for me now. No need of scuba gear in a pool 
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Frosty, you so lazy
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Hm. It’s a bit like the argument for a non-consensual PvP toggle. If it were optional, how many pilots would still use the current mechanic? Very few, I’d guess.
In which case, it might make more sense to make it ‘auto’ for everybody - and hang the consequences.
If you open the screen, it’s on; close it, it’s off.
Not that it bothers me one way or the other…
No.
As a supporter of auto dscan, there are reasons to do it manual. Such as when hunting, or when wanting to read an enemy fleet comp.
…and I agree with you, Rail, and thanks for prompting me to think more steadily about the subject. There are definitely situations in which manual DScan is useful. I use it myself. I’m just cautious about the effect of making it optional game-wide, and particularly in Highsec, where I live.
Many of the miners I’ve encountered are lazy and ignorant. They would love an Auto Dscan feature (with an audible alarm), a free-n-eazy early warning system so that they could play AFK to their hearts’ content. They would never opt for a manual feature, given the choice. Hell, they don’t even use it now! For them, providing the option would hardly be necessary, and it was the optional nature of the suggestion with which I had some reservations.
One of the challenges of EVE is the need to learn the various mechanics which govern our playstyles. There’s also a certain amount of pride which comes from finally nailing a thorny topic - and being a better player because of it.
The uses you suggest are completely relevant. It’s just that they are not necessarily the activities undertaken by many others. We’re talking about a big multi-faceted game here.
I’ve not made up my mind about it. I’m just doing what I usually do - nit-picking. Given your statements, I don’t expect you to agree with me, Rail, but I do have to voice my reservations, if I have them.
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lmao!
Good. Let 'em not use it. More content for those who do.
I’m for a toggleable d-scan. I’m aware it’s more work on already overtasked employees but it’s not like Time Travel, we don’t want it NOW.
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There’s nothing wrong with that.
The thing is, the safer people feel, the more likely they’ll be in space… and auto dscan wont really make that much difference in how safe people are, especially in the case of miners, that can have a fleet dropped right on their head with the use of bookmarks and access lists.
The main benefit or the game, is for the people that use it, not having to press the button thousands of times during a play session.
Any kind of game design, that is easy to automate, isn’t good game design.
Firstly, manual dscan is most useful while hunting. It’s a very poor tool to use while doing some other activity … such as fw plexing or ess theft.
That said, if it’s made automatic, people’s attention will be taken away from the tool and invested into other things. In other words, the people who are concerned about automatic descan from the point of view of wanting to kill those players mostly don’t have much to be concerned about (which imo is a poor reason anyway - get better at hunting.)
I think in the case of highsec, most people will just continue not using it.
But I’d also suggest that every time a session change occurs, dscan should be turned back to manual mode (which I assume would be default behavior anyway - it’s likely the devs would have to invest more time into development if they wanted to keep it active during session change.)
It’s not that much work to implement it. It might be a lot of work to optimize it. It might be extra work to deal with the network load.
It might not even be feasible if it really does have a big network drain…
But it’s still a feature that would be good… in terms of game design.
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So you ganked them.
Well, yes. But that was because I fancied their Faction Strip Miners. The ignorance and idleness were incidental, Zaera. Contributing factors to my success, yes, but incidental.
I’ve played sice 2014, I realized this in the first week, I cant think of a time since then CCP have in anyway demonstrated a desire to appeal to a wide gamer audience.
I completely agree the d scan system is ■■■■, but without adding automation I cant think of any fair (cat and mouse) way to change it, and I for one am not keen on automation.