It’s not an “investment”. Quit trying to suggest value where there is none. It’s just a game. You will win nothing and lose time, money and patience. Have fun… or try to.
One more thing. Last time i did this i played only 3 months then gave my character away. I suspect I might get bored again and stop playing.
If I do it, I hope i don’t quit again.
There have been a lot of changes in Faction Warfare. If you like small scale pvp, and are looking to earn your wings, I’d say that’s the way to do it
The past may inform the present in this case. Perhaps what you discovered without registering the fact was that having that high-SP character doesn’t necessarily render the same satisfaction as developing a high-SP character. Maybe by going the route of buying a developed character, you shorted yourself a lot of the fun you would have had building/developing a character over time?
Everybody is going to enjoy different aspects of the game, but I can say for myself, the time I was most into EVE (playing many hours a week and having lots of fun) - was in the early years. Back when I was a lowly 5M-10M SP pilot. For me, it was the thrill of improving, of being able to do something one day that I couldn’t do a day/week/month before, that kept me logging in every day. I think starting out with the ability to do pretty much anything would have taken away so much of the joy I experienced in those early years. I would have been robbed of that sense of accomplishment you get when you achieve a goal despite your lack of optimum preparedness for the task.
I’ve got tons of SP now, and can fly pretty much any sub-capital at max skill. I’ve got all the ISK I need, and can even fly reckless when I feel like it. But I don’t get nearly as much enjoyment out of the game now as I did in 2009-2012 or so, when everything was shiny and new, and every day I had to fight to get a little better at EVE.
Our struggles define us. If you deprive yourself that formative pain, you may find that doing so lessens your overall experience. I think this is true in EVE, as it is in life.
My opinion, for what it’s worth. That said, if you’ve got three grand burning a hole in your pocket, blowing it on EVE is one way to go. Personally, I think I’d rather chuck it on a wild weekend in Vegas.
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Ya, but you forget. Tasting the full game requires 20 years of skill point increment time. If I start from scratch, do I have 20 years to burn? Also, from a game design perspective, 20 years to experience a full game is definitely too long. I just hope that if I buy the character, that I have at least 10 years (I don’t i’ll be playing after 3 months). Truth though, I don’t think the average eve player can handle more than 10, except the rare few.
Also, if I want to fly everything like the average Eve player, I must sub 3 accounts. One for small ship PvP, one for Industry, and one for capitals.) So anyone who has ever mastered the game, most likely has to pay an upkeap of 3 subscriptions, and 100 million skill point characters each), so am I realy spending that much?
Also, you are probably right to some degree.
Ditto!!
Id be buying Precious Metals (no, not the PP item. Real Gold and Silver!!)
You have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, for example, by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game. Your Account, and all attributes of your Account, including all corporations, actions, groups, titles and characters, and all objects, currency and items acquired, developed or delivered by or to characters as a result of play through your Accounts, are the sole and exclusive property of CCP, including any and all copyrights and intellectual property rights in or to any and all of the same, all of which are hereby expressly reserved.
It doesn’t take 20 years to experience the full game. The game hasn’t even been out that long, although it’s getting close. Most of those characters who played back then, no longer play. People play for a few years, move on to another game, some come back, others don’t.
You don’t need 3 accounts to do everything. One is enough, especially on a long enough time scale. Small ship PVP, you don’t even need to be omega to be an expert in.
If you want to jump in with someone else’s character that you bought, you are absolutely within your rights to do so. No one can tell you if it’s ‘worth it’ or not, only you can decide what is worth your time and money. I may personally prefer to build up from ground zero, but others may have more fun with a ‘jump start’.
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No, honestly it doesn’t. You can taste pretty much every aspect of the game with probably 10-20M SP. “Taste” mind you, not master. But there’s no sense in trying to master everything. I’ve never met anyone who likes every facet of EVE. You try a bunch of stuff, find your niche, and go deep on that. Over the years, maybe your niche changes a little, and that’s where you broaden your skills.
Also, not true. I’ve never had more than two active accounts, and my secondary account has two very specialized alts, only one of whom I use with any regularity (my hauler).
As for capitals, you need to understand that capitals are not “end game”. I’ve been playing off and on since 2009, and I don’t fly capitals. For one, you can only use caps in low and null. If you don’t like living in either of those two areas of space, then there’s no point in skilling caps. Secondly, you can’t fly caps without support. If you’re bopping around low/null in a solo capital you’ll be dogpiled in short order. So unless you plan to join a large corp with cap fleet support… again, no point in skilling caps.
By which I assume you mean “no one”. Because that’s the reality. You can master a niche in EVE, maybe a few niches. Nobody masters the game in its entirety, it’s just too huge.
So again, my advice: start a toon from scratch. Maybe two. Try a lot of different things, and see what appeals to you. Learn about the reality of EVE, not just what you think you know, or what you saw in some marketing material. Give it a few months, maybe a year or more. If you still decide to buy a character, at least you’ll be making a more informed purchase, and you’ll probably select a character that is more tailored to what you really want to do in EVE.
But you won’t know what you actually enjoy until you try a number of different things. Probably best to find that out on the cheap before you sink a large amount of money into buying a character.
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There’s so many muppets on these forums. They would argue the sky is not blue on a clear (Earth) sunny day.
The main reason you should distrust PA CCP is because of their nerfs. You could find yourself investing in huge skill trees only to have the rug pulled. It happened a few times .
What times did it happen?
Always, if something gets too popular, it will be nerfed, and the EvE folks discover/move to the next “meta”. This is deliberate to regularly shake things up. Nothing special. You can’t expect to be able to play one style forever.
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So your saying that you expect CCP to pull the rug out, and make it less valuable for veterans rendering the purchase of a top character a bad investment?
I don’t get what the one thing has to do with the other. Assuming you are not buying a one-trick-pony and refuse to develop it any further. I have 250M skillpoints in subcaps and other general areas. I just don’t care SP-wise if CCP shifts the meta, I can fly everything subcap perfectly. And if there are new skillbooks I must have, I have 10M free SP spare to distribute.
But this is only the technical aspect, one must be mentally prepared to shift ones own playstyle and find new niches from time to time.
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OP will just end up like the unpleasant person that every golf club has.
They are the shouty loudmouth, that rocks up with the most expensive golf clubs money can buy, then makes sure everyone knows about the clubs.
Then misses the ball completely on the first tee shot.
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@Excelsior_Gokhan uh… yes, what everyone told you above and Pearl Abyss pretty much ignores this game subsidiary. I figure it must be a decent tax dodge or something to that affect. When the tax man comes they point at this game and say, “But we lost a lot of money over there!”. Maybe they use this to launder money for the Beomseobangpa? I don’t care. Who knows why they acquired this game and CCP, but whatever their reason wasn’t to violate and plunder your skill points.
Yes just recently, also seen rattlesnakes, nestors, golems, paladins, bahlgorns, t3s. Ill stop there list goes on.
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You rather kill an Ishtar than an Atron… You have several 200-300 M SP characters and have yet not even considered low-scale/solo pvp… Man, that’s sad. Fighting an Atron in a Brawl Kestrel for instance can be discribed as a fast heartpounding and epic experience, while compared to the other version of point, orbit, kill drones, then eat the Ishtar. I mean, both are fun but it’s completely false to assume that killing an Atron is boring. Frig-Destroyer size pvp some of the most fun out there and the best pilots in Eve are usually all ex-FW or FW pilots, or low-sec solo/small gang roamers, whoever disagrees is just lying to himself.
Nice projection. No, not everybody wants to skip ahead or is so shallowly invested in status as you. How the hell do Madonna or Lady Gaga prove that everyone wants success without effort? American culture is particularly geared towards that and obsessed with fame and money over self-improvement and achievement. You have proven nothing except your own spinelessness and self-serving character.
We aren’t salty. We pity you. Of course it’s allowed and I couldn’t give a damn about people buying characters, I’m not in an SP race with other players. I want to learn to fly ships gradually as I move onto bigger/more expensive stuff. But you go ahead and be a whale, fly those Tengus and Dreads with no experience behind it, that’s more easy shiny targets for the rest of us to shoot.
Do you seriously think an “average EVE player” is a 20 year old vet with 350m SP? Wow.
OP, you do you, but your self-justifications in this thead are kind of pathetic. You sound like a trust fund baby that desperately wants its narcissism and entitlement validated. If you’re going to be like that, just do it instead of trying to convince others that actually everyone secretly is as weak-minded as you and wants to climb to superior status on other people’s backs.
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