While I can’t do anything about option 2 or 3, I’m glad 1 isn’t possible.
You are talking about pattern recognition.
you see the letters and remember a pattern, not the actual pronunciation, and that’s false security.
This is something that is exploitable today, with the bazaar and skill injectors, of course, and it’s also quite common for hauling/contract scams.
so it would not be a problem “introduced” by a name change certificate, as this problem is LIVE now.
ps.
I Would even like argue that a name change cert,as it is proposed, would install better security against this type of dangers, as they would get a ui-flag for you to recognize before the pattern of the letters.
also, i belive that “known gankers” you know the ones that you really remember and are above the pattern recognicions memory, will likley NOT even change their names.
It’s not just about security and recognising gankers. How many times do I need to repeat that?
It’s about recognising the people you play with. Friends, allies, enemies, regulars, uncommon sights in your space, that gate camper, the combat probing tackle venture that sometimes shows up in your fleet, those guys from that one thread about changing names…
Change their names and recognition is gone.
If we could change names today and you joined the same fleet I were in tomorrow, I wouldn’t know you were the one from this thread, Hug. I think that’s a shame.
That’s going to be great for communication. Two players talking about the same other guy they see in system, but both of them see a different name based on their UI settings.
Sounds like a wonderful idea to me.
Yeah cus listing options cant be in the fleet motd right?
There is no “broadcast target” in the future fleets?
tbh, most pilots will have “list new names” anyways.
We all know alts exist and is promoted by ccp, there is bazzar, injectors etc etc… time for the eve community get a ■■■■■■■ reality grip and just leaves the paranoid thinking to the corp leaders etc…
Yes, alts exist.
So if you want a new name, get an Alt.
i’ve got 4.
if you in that fleet that needs to know, better wise the f up and list both names then.
Problem solved.
you honestley are a lil prick…
you demand i starts alt, invest billions of isk (or thousands of irl dollars) to get the to the same level… just so you dont hafto check a box in the ui… zz.
I only ask that actions in EVE have consequences. Like it is right now.
And that the consequence for the wrong actions such as ruining your reputation (or making a bad naming choice) is that you either live with it, or yes, invest a lot of ISK if that’s worth it to you to start with a fresh reputation.
why don’t ccp make 25p 50p £1 bargains on plex store where you can increase your skill past the highest for 1 day
i do art…
increase the grand scale of the universe because all the planets are not sported to be the same and the sun go on you tube and check suns and planet the universe grand scale, people are dust own earth is small,
gas should come out of asteroid and they should be moving some. ill pay 29.99 a month for grand scale improvements
notify the player they have been target by combat probe idea ?
try find out if you can use a super computer to make more ship and equipment and others, people wont more. and use the super computer for alien world and raises when you wont to return to the universe instead of just a small portion…
make jettison containers modifiable in station like you do with fitting?
make different layout of the ships each one but with multiple chooses to choose from each with defect state and cost so much add variety
make different engine’s that can be modify on the fitting with different state’s
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Just like you should “suffer consequences” by not updating your skill queue ?
Or not updating your clone ?
Or skilling the wrong skills ?
Or chosing the wrong aesthetic ?
Yeah right : “Being able to escape consequences for 90% of the things you do in Eve does not mean you should as well for the 10%”.
sigh
Please, we just cleared things out about your point of view being : “i want to be able to recognise the players i played with by name”, and not “i want to be able to recognise the devil players”.
So avoid putting this back on the table, we demonstrated already why it is not relevant.
While i can understand the sentimental part of “bering able to recognise the players i played with”, i cannot for the opposite.
And i cannot still imagine you being able to remember all those players, because even if you specify that you’re not implying that, what you’re saying does terribly imply that.
Yet again, another demonstration about your narrow mind.
There are other communities in Eve Online, with other languages and even non latin letters.
You know that ?
Do you think they are not able to play the game because they use different names than you do ?
Or they cannot communicate with others ?
sorry for calling you a prick, i was angry.
but … no, actions in eve might have consequences? but its NOT tied to the pilot name.
ever heard the phrase: “yeah that is X alt”. “this is my alt” alt alt alt alt…
I have, multiple times - daily.
anyone want to be name-less is free to trade charachters, have anon alts, skill inject, sp farm etc etc etc.
if one wants to get away with murder, eve allowes that NOW.
i think that anyone who says “names cant change, its very important” are a bit delusional.
im also most certain that “known criminals” aka the players that are more “important to know” do not even want to change names!!
they already have 10 “unknown” alts… those unknown are the ones that feed the possibility of “fame” to their main name.
Some people think renaming characters in EVE shouldn’t be possible because part of the game is to build up your reputation which is tied to your name. Basically we shouldn’t let people who have a bad reputation get away from it.
This is all fine, but in fact renaming your character and avoiding a bad reputation is already technically possible, it’s just not streamlined.
First off you can buy and sell characters on the Character Bazaar to avoid a bad reputation.
Secondly you can also extract skillpoints from your old character with skill extractors and inject them into a new character with skill injectors. Now you have a fresh character with no history or bad reputation.
These methods are possible, but they are also expensive and cumbersome. CCP could streamline a legit and unexploitable renaming system in the following way.
First off like with character transfers there could be a renaming fee. I don’t have a bad reputation that I want to avoid, just characters names I’d like to change, and I’d happily pay money to rename a character.
Second, there could be a renaming time limit, like there is with changing skill learning attributes. For example renaming could be possible once per year.
Third, perhaps the most important feature of a renaming system would be a full list of previous names or known aliases in the show info window, like there is with corporation history and character transfers. This would prevent people from using it to escape their bad reputation. Intel systems would have to be fixed to instead search after the unique character ID of a blacklisted character, rather than just the name.
Please CCP make a streamlined character renaming system like this for those who have a legitimate need to rename their character. You’ll even be able to make money from it! Everybody wins.
Thanks for reading.
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It is a lot easier to just have a bunch of people report that your character’s name is offensive. Then CCP will compel you to change the name. For free.
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Yeah, but they change it to “Gallente Citizen 432543543” or something, not what I’m looking for.
You just tell them the name you want and they change it whenever you are ready.
I completely agree. And I’d much rather have CCP make money off of something like this, than additional P2W BS.
Anyway, if anyone has any additional reasons why CCP shouldn’t do this, I’d like to hear them. Because the only criticism I’ve heard so far is that actions should have consequences, and that people should be able to avoid them. But like OP said, but players can already buy and sell characters, and extract SP to put on new toons. Moreover, a character name history should be able to be easily implemented, and, correct me if I’m wrong, but this wouldn’t affect set standings, character notes, or API’s, as the character ID will remain the same no matter what.
And I’d imagine that limitation on how often you could do it would help prevent other shenanigans.
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If there’s a way to already do this, there is no need to create a streamlined way to do this. It adds nothing to the game and takes time away from other things.
The issue is, again, that people don’t just want name changes. They want their name change, but all the rest of the history to stay the same, including their start dates, etc. If they just wanted name changes, they’d take advantage of the things that currently exist that make that possible.
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SP extraction only is 5.5min total SP… and if your character your injecting into has more then 5mil you loose 100k SP per LSI.
I don’t see anything wrong currently? @Brisc_Rubal and @Shipwreck_Jones outlined the topic really well.
How about you just pick the name you want the first time? It’s that simple…
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