Where are you getting that from?
Standard highsec rats are like flies. They can be completely ignored, in both an Orca and any barge/exhumer. You don’t need to shoot them at all, so they don’t need to affect anything about mining.
This doesn’t refute Scipio’s test.
Try reading better.
I calculated that with max skills and 1 drone on each rock, an Orca player can go AFK for 40+ minutes if they target rocks 100k in size.
I reffers to you generalized claim.
“40 min. AFK in a standard Belt”
Like I said before, you need to try reading better:
Reading the topic helps.
Now try again.
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Can you quote where I wrote that? I don’t remember doing so.
It was never an intent to put some hard exact number, so I’d be surprised if I did (aside from the observation from experience that I used to be able to go over an hour completely AFK, but it doesn’t look like that is possible any longer).
Your example hits the reality wall.
Watch the Picture. That’s the size of the majority of Rocks.
And as i said, your example is for a very specific Situation: going only Veldspar.
Maybe you should honor your own sugestion.
Not you, Xuixien made that claim.
Except it doesn’t. One screenshot of small rocks doesn’t mean big rocks don’t exist. It also doesn’t change the math.
Try again.
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strawman. nobody claimed “big rocks don’t exit”. What is claimed is : you are cherry picking. The proof is that the “big rocks” are not the general case.
Ok,…
In your Szenario YOU can go AFK for 40 min.
That is good for you (i mean it).
In MY Szenario that is not possible.
As i stated before: there is no “right” or “wrong” in both cases.
And going back to Topic:
If and what Orca changes you are expecting and why?
And that’s completely irrelevant. It doesn’t change the math nor does it change reality. Your failure to find a good mining system has no bearing on the validity of what either Scipio or myself have said ITT.
Nice try though I guess?
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Well, it looks like there is a clear right or wrong in the statement that the Orca has more APM than other mining ships.
That looks pretty wrong.
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So the same applies to your Szenario then.
But let’s stop being OT.
Don’t dodge the Question on Topic.
but you don’t need to make an arbitrarily chosen example for that.
APM from switching targets is linear with yield. So of course orca has 6 times less APM than a hulk. It’s just math. Your example is useless.
compared to:
Emphasis in the second quote not added by me. It was in your original post above, and just didn’t seem right. Looks like you agree.
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Well, on an Orca i would expect low APM. Because of Drone Yield and Cargo Space.
Especially on larger Rocks (Moon Mining).
(For standard Belts, i shared the Numbers for my own Szenario.)
So APM is just fine for me.
But as already said (not sure if it got deleted):
If the difference in Yield/Time is not big enough between an Orca and a Skiff, we would have to talk about possible Skiff Buffs.
But since that is a “Upcoming Changes to the Orca”, i don’t care about that. shrug
(Or we would talk about buffing Orca Boosts, which would take care of that. Just not in a Solo Szenario)
Nah you are correct here. Orca in general is less APM for the sole reason that it’s less yield.
But now considering the actions for a given volume, since the orca actually puts its drones on the same rock to avoid traveling (so active orca) and needs to move from asteroid to asteroid, an active orca actually needs more actions (since the covetor has lasers it does not need to move after eah rock)
Because otherwise your comparison makes no sense : since the APM is linear with yield then a “better” ship is a ship that has lower yield ? A venture is better than a covetor ?
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Yeah, because i can make the Rocks in my System bigger! 
So let’s Sum that up:
- A Screenshot is Proof for the Rock Size in your System.
- A Screenshot is not Proof for the Rock Size in my Belt.
Well… uuhm… nah, not going to coment that.
You should realize that by yourself!
Take the L with grace dude.