Actually, fixing the game itself instead of creating drama with the gambling or the BO for that matter will create more cash for them because more players will want to play. Which means more subscriptions, more plex sold. They are going about it the wrong way.
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I would bet you 20 bil the system doesnāt get shut down, but given your apparent maturity level, that would be underage gambling.
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Letās call this what it really isā¦ this is the Raffle Hub. Calling it a HyperNet Relay makes it sound like itās actually some advanced technology when in reality, itās just an age old gambling sham.
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Because all the changes so far have been crazy and not called for. And I think by now CCP should have read about the issues to fix: capitals, rorquals and such. Also, ask Hillmar whether he and his overlords would prefer positive press or negative press. Cause this is bad press
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There is nothing to stop those people from doing that now. There are already gambling aspects in the game that can be abused. All of these same arguments were trotted out about the mutaplasmids, and the last guardianās gala boxes, and none of it came true.
As the old saying goes, thereās no such thing as bad press. The more people talking about EVE the better.
But back to your other statement - you are arguing that they can get more subs by āfixing the gameā but then you argue every time they try to fix the game, they screw it up. Do you really want them to keep doing that?
Mutaplasmids are less of an issue - upgrading low tier stuff to somewhat equal faction is actually good profit so there no sunk-cost fallacy going on.
The gala boxes were a scam that lost participants money - really dumb design for an event but took about as long to figure that out as the event went on.
OK Iāll bite, what āpress?ā This is just players of the game talking about it on a forum, this 20 year old game isnāt being discussed on the outside gaming world. When the dwindling number of players of the game are generally talking poorly about itā¦that whole notion of āno such thing as bad pressā is a fools folly. For a real example, howād that bad press for Blackout go? Poorly. Players left in droves, and the biggest cheerleader for Blackout at CCP ended up āresigningā - not a positive for anyone really.
As for this RaffleNet Hub, we can all see it is just a milk job . Maybe it succeeds and people end up enjoying playing Deal Dash for Eve, or maybe it bombs. Time will tell. I personally donāt see it as adding anything to the Eve experience, doesnāt sound like anything that would get me engaged in Eve again.
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Fine, just to appease the whiners. Could a cap be put on how many you can buy per month?
I hear you. Bad press, good press. I know and I understand the process since i do PR in real life.
Since you are asking me a direct question, I will respond directly:
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the issue I had with the BO is very simple. In one move they removed any progress made by the game toward small entities. In one simple move, they destroyed I dont know how many corps and many other pilots simply quite the game. And all of this, without even providing counter play vs the BOā¦Dont even know if we have recovered from that dumb idea (whoever had the idea by the way, I hope they get fired)
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the issue I have with this new idea that Hillmar got while in the sauna is related to two reasons:
a) they are basically prying (hope I spell this correct) on gambling addicts, on people who are trying to quit gambling. And that is wrong in so many levels.
b) they are doing this crap after forcing sites such as EVEBet and other popular ones to shut down. And that is quite hypocritical of them. And dead wrong to do that.
Bottom line as far as I am concerned, none of their current āgeniusā ideas are anything but genius. Instead of doing the crap they have been doing for the past 6+ month, how about fixing the real issues? how about releasing real features? The bookmarks is a right step. The supposed anti-cap bombs would be another, but CCP is so far out of their depth, so far up where the sun doesnā shine, they dont even realize all the bad they are doing.
Didnt you post about gambling being content previously? I only wrote how it actually looks in eyes of a gambler.
And they are, there was article where player admited he had problems. Doubling on gambling additions, like with raffles is what CCP learned from exploiting players. That you can suck the money of people with vulnerabilities. Esentially how your father would go to a doctor for a routine check but instead of receiving honest diagnosis, he would receive receipt for a poison that is making him crave it more and more each time he takes it, untill the poison hurts him so much that he jumps thru the window one time, because he feels he lost everything.
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et tu, Brisc? 
The gaming media writes about EVE all the time. This is a big change given then history of gambling in EVE and you can expect the gaming media to write about it. The EVE media has already started covering it, and you can be sure we will talk about it in Open Comms tonight and the Meta Show tomorrow.
Blackout generated a lot of media coverage, and we still donāt know what the long term impact of it will be. Plenty of folks came back because of it, though.
Falcon didnāt leave over the blackout, either. Stop the tin foil nonsense.
It sounds like youāre not playing the game, it you felt strongly enough to come here and complain? Guess it is getting people to engage, huh?
@Brisc_Rubal What open comms? time? comms address?
You are never going to be able to protect everybody from themselves, and trying to do so is pointless. They are adding safeguards to allow people to opt out, and that is sufficient.
What I find morally degenerate are people who, in the name of knowing what is better for everybody else, want to stop people from engaging in behavior they find fun and can engage in responsibly because someone, somewhere could abuse it.
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For the record, the QA on this thing sucks. I donāt know why they made the decision to set the number of tickets to 8,16,48, and 512, but any number not easily divided by them makes the system lie to you.
The reason it lies is because both the individual ticket price and the total price fields are trying to do too much. Each field is trying to:
- accept keyboard input
- resolve itās own value from the other field, i.e.: the ātotalā field is trying to resolve its value from the number in the āindividualā field, and the āindividualā field is trying to resolve its value from the number in the ātotalā field. It is trying to do this while you type in it.
- display the derived value in a āneatā way, by rounding off any decimal places it doesnāt like displaying. So 17.4555 becomes 17.46
Itās still doing the math with 17.4555, though. Except where it starts rounding that math, tooā¦ and you wind up with things likeā¦ well.
Before we get to the image, letās remember that 5% of 1000 isk is 50 ISK, so if youāre putting something up for 1000 ISK, youāll get 950ā¦ supposedly.
Buuuuut this happens, sometimes:
Total Price: 1,000
Each node: 121.6
8 nodes.
[Note: 121.6 * 8 = 972.8, not 1000]
Then it takes that awesome math, and decides āok, 972.8! Thatās 973 now, so weāre taxing you on 973!ā (See the right side) and youāll get 924!
Now, itās not stealing money, and itās not producing money out of thin air, but itās definitely not doing its math right if it thinks 1000/8=121.6
BUT WAIT THEREāS MORE!!!
Are you in Europe? Do you use the EU keyboard settings? Is the proper way to format a 1 with nine 0s and 2 decimal places ā1.000.000.000,00ā where you are?
YOUāRE ABSOLUTELY SCREWED.
Youāre screwed because QA apparently never bothered to test this. If youāre using that system configuration the hypernet relay does not display decimals at all. It rounds them off. But it gets better! Because it doesnāt display them, you canāt delete them. So say you go and put something in with 16 nodes for 1.000,00 ISK.
1k/16 = 62,5 in the EU notation. The system will display this as ā63ā. Ok, so itās rounding, no big deal, right? Well, when you click into the individual node price to say ātell you what, letās just make it 65 eachā, you click in, delete ā3ā and haveā¦ ā7ā.
BECAUSE IT STILL HAS THE HIDDEN ā,5ā, and itās still trying to round.
So, ā7ā on the screen! Press ā5ā and you haveā¦ ā66ā.
Because itās now got ā65,5ā and itās trying to round. You cannot clear that hidden decimal.
Lemme just take a moment here and highlight how bad this level of QA fail is: EU formatting is fundamentally broken on a product being released by a company based in the EU.
Hey, @CCP_Lebowski you do QA stuff, right? Who do you need to slap about this? (Hope itās not you.)
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If QA process is brokenā¦what more needs to be saidā¦
Oh you are referring to Imperiumā¦I thought CCP grew some balls and had an open commsā¦
Finally - somebody with criticisms of the actual implementation.