Invasions are trapping and one shotting noobs

Heh.

More like herding cats though.

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Censured

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Im glad to hear that you take your combat evasion seriously enough to enjoy avoiding it.

This is why I like all aspects even if I lean my support to the PvP side.

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My personal opinion about incursions is that, the only way for a noob to be trapped, is to not want to go by capsule (eg he does not have enough money to buy another ship somewhere else).

To be killed in invaded systems by NPC you need either :

  1. to have a low-tank, low-align ship on the gate. Assuming the rats don’t web you (which they usually do, and makes you warp much quicker)
  2. stay on gate with a ship not able to tank the incoming damage. eg being disconnected and the game not realizing it yet, or having an issue IRL, or complaining on the forum and forgetting what your ship is doing (=nothing)
  3. try to burn back on a gate with an untanked ship. Since the rats will web you, you will die.
  4. get caught on the undock of a kickout station, without insta undock. Or a non-kickout station but not realizing you can dock instead of dying.
  5. warp to a station without an insta dock, camped by several waves with webber in range of you, and land 2500 m from the station, which means 2200 m to slowboat to the station docking radius on a non-propmod fit and untanked (eg iteron mkV)
  6. use auto pilot.

All those are possible and very lilely to make you die as a noob.
2, 3, and 6 are bad behaviour from the player.
1, 4, 5 are potential issues players should be aware of - and learn to deal with.

The only ones that can “trap” a newbro are 1, 4, and 5 because it requires them to create insta bookmarks and have a ship correctly fitted.
number 6 is often the result of CCP asking players to use the garbage AP in the NPE. It’s literally CCP telling newbros to kill their own ship they took a few hours to acquire.

Other than that, the invasions are perfectly safe, be it in a freighter, a T2 hauler, an orca, or a tanked T1 indus. only the big haulers are at loss (iteron, bestower) because they are lace-tanked.

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I’m new and while I find the Invasion both terrifying and exciting at the same time, losing all my stuff and making me broke is very off putting. All I am trying to do is complete a few career missions!!

Further to this I also lost my best ship full of goodies due to a network disconnect mid warp. Only to find myself in a capsule surrounded by Trig ships…!! There should be something to stop that or acknowledge your lost and refund the worth.

Apart from that great game but boy is it time eater. :astonished:

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You cant enter trig invasion without pop out notice telling you “you are about to enter dangerous space”.
You cant autopilot there too said pop out notice wont let you.

don’t do that

Again don’t do that packing ALL your stuff and running around in EVE is really bad idea on all levels.

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Yeah, just recently I basically said the same thing.

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And I have taken what you said on board and am now adding more detail to help avoid confusing others.

Thank you :slight_smile:

In this way we all communicate better.

Wait till you disconnect undocking a 2b Loki and see your in pod when you finally get to character selection screen.

90% of players quit after a week anwyay so its probably fine.

I never dock my Loki or other squishy expensive stuff in a station over night for this reason … :wink:

Hello I found that these rules work when jumping thru Invaded space

  1. use an extended shield or adaptive shield and booster if you don’t want that use metal plates or any armor no armor = one shot

  2. do not engage if you are on a mission if they hit you warp away if you fallow rule #1 you should be ok always go to a station if you go AFK in invasion you are dead never go AFK in space if you fight them they will gang up on you be prepared for it.

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Because they are not the same.

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