Very much this.
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I was never a solo player - so what? most of my killboard is small gang or wormhole fights where every ship counts - very much not null bear F1 monkey. You canāt really row this one back youāve shown your inexperience - there is absolutely no way anyone with reasonable knowledge of the game would look at my killboard and say null bear F1 monkey - aside from solo or high sec war it is about as removed from that as you get.
Itās a way of getting under your skin and clearly itās working, but also on the basis of some of your own posts, deserved.
Not really - Iāve a pretty thick skin these days - just a bit more blunt than I might have been in the past. I find it amusing to draw some of the trolls into an actual engagement rather than their normal sniping.
EDIT: Interesting thing youāve done though - youāve manoeuvred Gix into a place where they admit they were serious and wrong or just another forum troll whose opinion doesnāt really count for much.
No.
Itās also perfectly valid that he might hold that opinion, Thereās no maneuvering involved in that.
His posts clearly are getting under your skin, but his opinion is just as valid as anyone elseās. You are both engaged in the āyou F1 monkeyā vs āyou are inexperienced if thatās what you readā tit-for-tat.
Now resorting to the tired āhe must be a trollā line of thinking is just one more way of showing that his observations are pointed.
If you donāt care, then donāt engage.
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He was constantly questioning my experience in the game based on his own misreading of my posts - I only came back with the inexperienced bit after he put his foot in it. He specifically said ānull bear F1 monkeyā - there is literally zero evidence of that on my killboard - Rroff has plainly never been part of a null sec corp/alliance or lived there.
The only things really bad for the game are
AFK anything (ratting, mining, etc)
Overuse of alts (I say this as someone with way too many accounts).
Ganking makes the products of mining more valuable, as the risk increases, the value increases.
I would also remind everyone, its a game, donāt take any of it too seriously, we all end up getting blown upā¦have fun with it.
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Then maybe sticking to correcting any misreading of your posts is a potentially more productive way forward.
He isnāt the only one that appears to have read things in your posts that you might see as misreadings.
Ultimately, itās forum banter and no one is a troll for making posts here, just because they have a different opinion.
Itās pretty weak and defeatist to just dismiss people with the ātrollā monicker.
Very rarely do we have true trolls in the forum; and they are usually dealt with, within a few weeks.
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Personally Iād say, likewise as someone who has far too many alts, the only time alts are a bad thing is if input automation or similar is used (also possibly when off-grid links were potentially unscannable). Alts generally help to make the game feel more alive which helps to bring and keep more people in the game.
I think that offsets the potential complaints people have that an alt might take up the space a real player might in a corp, etc. as it generally just scales upwards - more alts means the corp is doing more stuff which opens up more opportunities.
The nature of my replies generally is a mirror of those responding to me - Iāll take the time to write reasoned reply to someone who does so in return but if someone just snippets bits of my posts and misrepresents them then it tends to result in an endless spiral.
You are largely right in your reply, however:
Initially the gankers in Eve did work together and were good at team work, but over time it developed into people who controlled a team and then into multi-boxers who often worked alone. In the end most of the multi-boxer gankers are not team players in any sense of the word, though some will work with others at times. You only have to see the destruction of the fort in Niarja as an example, there were CODE players running around while we were blowing it up and not one helped to defend it.
The comment you see branded around freely about getting friends runs rather hollow here, that is not to say that there are not groups of friends. What is clear however is that AG had to develop large numbers of active players often to just confront one excessive multi-boxer and it was just not doable for the same reasons that gankers ended up doing such large number of accounts solo. Getting enough people is difficultā¦, and totally inconsistent.
And having a charismatic figure at that early point when teams were really a thing is easy when that person is dishing out large wads of ISK, AG just cannot do that.
The most successful AG player excessively multi-boxers too.
No it is not that, because CODE does not do that either.
My take on it is that ganking is an active playstyle, and that in order to counter it, players will need to exit their barges, haulers and blingy mission ships, switch off Netflix, and devote some time to doing something rather than simply complaining.
As to your earlier points regarding team-work, itās true that those whose co-ordination skills permit it, can multi-box, but I donāt think there are that many of them? Just an impression.
What happened to the CODE. Alliance? Like many organisations, as soon as its success began to be taken for granted, rifts appeared, and it ultimately divided. I donāt know the details, thatās just an outside observation; Iād be happy to be corrected (by a competent authority).
Iām at a loss, Dracvlad; why should they? If the invasion was interfering with their operations, you might expect them to care, but, clearly, they deemed it not to be in their interests.
No. In order to defeat gankers you need at least to match them in skill, determination, financing, ingenuity, and patience - and enjoy yourself doing it!
So many of the complainers we meet on these boards are, frankly, rather po-faced and funereal.
Not you, of course; you just sound committed but frustrated by the tools you have to work with. I think I used the word correctly; Americanisms areā¦difficult.
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Something I notice in this thread is that people seem to focus on specific styles of ganking, often the most high profile or affects them the most. What it really needs is shaking up over its whole breadth which would impact some areas more than others. Pretty much every other area of the game has had that at some point or other so not sure ganking should be excluded from it.
For every situation where someone could exit their barge or hauler, etc. and do something about it there is another where it would make little to no difference.
Donāt disagree though there are a lot who just want to lazily haul, etc. without consequences and then complain rather than doing something about it.
Hi Rroff, perhaps CCP has a cunning planā¦
I think itās a safe bet that if any of the forms of Highsec ganking were materially affecting the companyās bottom-line, weād have heard about it as soon as they could cobble together the code or dev-blog.
I canāt help harbouring the suspicion that, back at HQ, they find all this drama-laden back-and-forthā¦amusing.
Perhaps that is why:
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Itās arguable that the whole breadth of ganking, including both predators and prey have had more change and focus than most other areas of the game over a long period of time.
More change is inevitable and even suggestions for change can generate useful discussion (despite this thread turning to crap over the last 500 odd posts).
It seems to be an issue that divides a small part of the community, both having valid views, yet both continually slinging mud at each other. The larger part of the community just gets on and plays the game with no issue either way.
If only someone would make a suggestion for a broad shake up, that would be great. Unfortunately, as evidenced across multiple threads consistently for years, a ābroad shake upā always seems to only be ānerf them and buff meā and never āgive and take from both sidesā.
Luckily, whether we individually agree with where the overall balance sits, CCP take a much more give and take approach; and always have in general.
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Maybe I missed it but I donāt recall there being a case study and rolled together changes addressing the area specifically with a project name like most other areas of the game have been dealt with. (For instance teiricide).
It has seen a lot of changes and some focus over the years but that has mostly been an adjacent affect from shaking up other areas of the game which connect into it.
I lump all WH/null peeps into the same category, much like you do with ganking and PvP. Yes, you are a F1 monkey. Also bro, again your opinion means nill. The last time you played was years ago. You canāt even name 5 gankers off hand without using zkills extensively LOL.
I think he actually secretly loves me. I get that a lot.
yea, cause you were listing tactics that no high sec ganker uses ever. Plenty of experience bruv. You are a null bear F1 monkey with 3 solo kills. The most youāve done is listen to an FC on mumble and press F1 after they fleet warped you in 
Also, you have no other way to gain anymore experience cause you donāt play remember? Resub. Come find me
Oh. Iām glad you admitted it.
If youād been playing, you would know what happened to CODE. The alliance youāre looking for is Safety my friend. But then you were docked up and hiding from Aiko so
Or they can just play the game. James 315 didnāt hand out wads of cash and look what he did. He created content. You may publicly hate Aiko and secretly love her but you canāt deny that she is creating content for the game for all playstyles.
Dude. There is only one type of ganking. Hi sec. Only in hi sec. Tactics differ, but if you are killed in hi sec, not thru suspect baiting or duels, it is ganking. If you are killed in low/null/WH it is PvP. I would think a nullbear F1 monkey would know this but I just know after yaāll got thru pounding one dude with your fleet you were like yea bro we totally gank that foo when in reality you just engaged in PvP.
You said specifically ānull bear F1 monkeyāā¦ that is a pretty specific class of player which by no stretch of the definition fits me.
Really it doesnāt take 2 seconds looking at my killboard to find that notion absurd - aside from the NPSI roams with RvB, etc. most of the fights Iāve been in have been far from warp in press F1 jobs.
All you are doing at the moment is replying to my posts with rubbish so this isnāt going anywhere - aside from increasingly making you look clueless.
Show me anywhere Iāve confused theseā¦ it is something youāve made up in your head.
Everything Iāve been referring to has been high sec related.
Just out of curiosity, why all the energy expended on a game you donāt play and havenāt played in years? I canāt even conceive of getting on the EQ2 forums and starting a beef about what the monk class is up to these days.
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