I think an even better podcast would be the biggest opponents of BO doing an aggressive and hostile interview with Hillmar and his compadres…
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Except apart from here they have no aggression.
Remember, internet spaceship explosions are scary.
At least thats the line thats been used as to why Blackup is bad.
I think we need at least another month for more data… i’ll revisit the issue then
In this form the blackout is unbalanced , small alliances and corps cant play with this raw mechanic and the cap umbrella allies smile only, stop the blackout and bring it back with some mechanics and counter possibilitys .
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Not quite. It must be taken into account, the cost-benefit. You don’t just go in a barge with a cargo hull and fire the lasers, pack, go and cash. No.
It was gradually made so, that a mining operation requires infrastructure which costs just pile up.
Then there are the upgrades, which require SOV. Have we ever calculated that? and contrasted it with the BO addition that requires any mining or ratting op to become a military one? How many pilots per gate guard and the unsizable response group? UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS MORE FUN WHEN THERE WAS A RESPONSE. NOW NO ONE WANTS TO SAVE A BARGE. PLEASE THINK OF IT! don’t ask why or cherrypick cuz I truly don’t have that kind of time.
Remember, these things, this infrastructure is all but portable and they show on maps, api pulls, etc.
If a PVPucho gang decided in March 2019 to enter again in a mining or ratting system, it will encounter the same as it was a year before. So, these so called PVPers or PVPuchos (those who just seek easy kills) had the area mapped and ready for any moment they decide to go in, blap & go out. Everything was a clockwork and doing fine. There was a sizable grade of response and some gf’s.
But that PVPucho has no use for his maps, bookmarks and alike because there is nothing to kill and they are also equally lazy and don’t wish to scan through 6-8 systems to find nothing some would say, “it’s not empty, there is Derpio, Derpina and Alexanderp” and it’s true but the BO does not derive in confrontation but people just hide.
In essence, even without the maps and api stuff, any PVPucho knows where to go but HE IS NOT GOING nowdays. And if he did, it was more fun before because THERE WAS FISH!
The “PVPuchos” projection was also programmed this way. They forwarded structures to park Titans in some areas, create a forward infrastructure and apply at will via cyno. Things got so cheap that all drops had a batfon and were used as projection of capitals to just obliterate for giggles or bait Cap fights. There were little gf’s BUT THERE WERE!
There are multiple scenarios like this in several areas. I’m not talking about the donutbrella because that is another problem still waiting to be solved and the supposed weekly chaos should be taking care of but that chaos is also stagnant atm. THE BOTS HAVE ADAPTED!
The next resort for PVPuchos is SOV grinding… which is the thing that will finally kill the infrastructures. It’s not fun anymore it just feeds the donutbrella. And if PVPucho decides to follow through SOV grind and finishes the cycle, WHAT? it will be fun, you think?
Cheezos guys, can’t you see that the experiment failed? You may not see it now but think of tomorrow! It will get you too!
But I give CCP the benefit of the doubt and wait… for the next chaos move, if they have one. Because frankly, a lot of customers are starting to believe that there is none. It was stated that the mayhem would be delivered weekly.
And ok, let’s not kill noobs. Good. (but we could) 
But can we at least get together and ask for the weekly thing?
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If you had experience, you would not have written the heresy that you write. A person with experience cannot write such nonsense. Either he is so stupid that he believes in the nonsense that he writes, or purposefully tries to write lies in pursuit of his hidden goals.
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If that is the case, surely you can refute all of it. No? Just going to keep trying to dismiss the person instead?
Figures. Bored now.
Remove the eva map and api, then it will be honest for pvp and pve. I already said about everything else - you write garbage and either believe in it or try to convince others of this for the sake of your hidden motives.
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I still find it ludicrous that the “bears” are supposed to deploy multiple accounts to “defend” (insert watch ) while the hunters need only look at maps to solo in and kill them. wonderful PVP experience
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Still using that wierd-ass translator I see
Have you considered playing with other people in this Massively Multiplayer Online Game? I can assure you, it’s a lot more fun, and banding together means pooling resources and delegating tasks. You might even find that playing with PvPers on your side is rather beneficial at that.
Stop trying to balance the game around solo in an MMO. That’s just stupid. Eve solo is always going to be rock, papers, scissors and you get around that by shoring up your weaknesses with other people.
So you got sod all, and don’t actually understand how these toolkits work. Roger.
But think of Null without the maps for a moment. And try to fathom the requirements to re-arrange the infrastructures for upgrades…
It’s a herculian job and the incoming forces would already know, by history or memory, where the hubs are.
Removing the maps would be a step closer … TOO CLOSE … to the WH scenario, from which the BO was copied.
You think Empire should be surrounded by a WH like thing?
And you can’t upgrade mining barges to higher resistances in addition to lowering the yield in Null, so it buys time for being defended because OMG! the chaos! some peeps here would unscrew their ears, m8!
Or make ratting specific hulls with the same purpose, that they resist until reinforcements arrive.
Units which can be active specific to the case so no one uses a barge for PVP or SOV grinding? can you imagine that? THAT would make difference and bring chaos.
A TYPE OF CHAOS PLAYERS PARTICIPATE IN
OF COURSE NOT! It would be too dificult, complex donutbrella feeding, horrible! a cat-ass-trophy!
These are not proposals guys, don’t cherrypick! I’m just showing that there are so many switches that could have been flipped instead of BO. Way more fun and true to CHAOS. With RESPECT to the money invested by EVE’s customers!
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It would explain why they are too chicken-■■■■ to settle it themselves
It is called a “Nyx”.
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IDK, all I say is WH’s have their niche and work fine.
The BO has pros, cons and whatevers. But it is still a copied feature from a specific environment, nothing more.
Was there really nothing scarcely more creative? Something the players would actually do and not an environmental thing? It reminds me of the change Christof made on Truman.
We can’t expect features to be carboned from layer to layer.
CAN WE DEMAND REAL WORK ON THE CHAOS?
BTW, afaik, no word on if the chat short was an attempt to unflip the BO switch. Guess my bet on that!
Ay no!
You’ve got me! and deserve a point:
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I’ll think about this when I see you in game. If ever.
So far, Im going with “Crude attempt to use an ingame feature to help some other plan along” at the CEO’s command, and probably ignoring all comments from team that could be considered negative and “against the Plan”
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That’s not really true, though. The idea of removing local from nullsec predates wormholes by years - it was just never executed until now.
Such as? All ■■■■■■■■ secondary rationales aside (“It’s about bots!” or “It’s to make nullsec dangerous again!” and such forth), the actual, specific problem being addressed here was, “Local provides instant and infallible intel.” It wasn’t intended to do that, hence the old, old, ollllld idea of removing it from null (which was never enacted until now). If your position is that null should have instant, infallible intel, then your beliefs are obviously out of line with the philosophy of the current design team and there’s really nothing for that. Otherwise, do feel free to present alternative solutions that adequately address the undesired reality of, “Local provides instant and infallible intel.”
And all joking aside, you can still rat adequately in a subcap, and the people claiming otherwise simply do not want to make ANY concessions to their ratting setup. You can rat aligned, MJDs make you nigh immune to anything that doesn’t have a scram, you can tank up a bit so you survive longer (“BUT MUH TICKZ!!1!!”), you/your alliance can change the way you do intel, etc.
A lot of this complaining is just, “Well, we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas.”
There are certainly accurate critical points about the blackout, most notably that it really doesn’t force larger entities to really have to adapt to anything, but the idea that it’s just impossible to operate for a smaller organization is false.
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OMG you are old! In game… iin game…
You know history better, yes. And of course the idea was debated a while ago. But there was thousands of ideas. A few of them good but required effort and creativity. In other words, WORK. The BO is just that one that got the ok to go and now one can see it dates back.
But I personally refuse to bestow it’s right to be, based on a historical mention. I mean, If I introduce whipping flags on torpedoes which color splats on the hull at the blast, It is not less of a blunder just because it was spoken about in the 70’s. Or you can’t blame for excrement streaks on the face of an imbecile just cuz one day I told him to eat crap!
As for the chances of small groups to survive, NO. An average group before BO, NO. A sizable group after someone draws a plan and calculates the costs and necessary toons involved, we can discuss. My bet is that those numbers will look a bit like a donutbrella, so why work on it when you can liquify and join them.
You have to give me that: In the current conditions, there is not enough information to predict success of a given career set of players in Null, nor it is possible to quantify it’s required participants, given that they can muster a flat influence along all time zones. Also, that there is no way to compare to the averages before BO.
No one knows that. There are mechanics which adaptation to such disproportionate change as BO, will take a long time. I agree it will require trial and mostly error but you can’t mention size in this case.
I shall remove a point:
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it isn’t impossible to rat or mine in NULL as a small entity, but it takes more people (eyes, intel, etc) to support it. while hunters get the freedom to roam using in game tools to find prey and function as if cloaked while in your space without even having cloaky skills. its pretty much a joke.
And I am soooo tired of hearing about afk ratting and lazy miners. most of us work at it and pay attention, and we still get killed by 1 or 2 guys in loki / sabre team. When will CCP do something that encourages PVP between combat ships?
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