Its not the umbrella folk that are the ones with the short fuses and seeking an echo chamber that Ive seen.
Its that foulest creation of capitalism;
The Middle Class
Iām not talking about that. A decent sub-cap ratter needs that many SPās to contribute in various ways. The problem is how EVE is becoming more & more like a slot machine.
Buy this, buy that, with Krabbing dialled down. Itās a noticeable trend.
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I read ā¦ Fun, some in the forest, some for firewood ā¦
So we summarize what we have:
- CCP in its message admitted that turning off the locale at zeros is āchaosā.
- Fighting bots is more of a side effect than the main goal.
- Disabling the locale in zeros is a reduction in the load on the messaging service in EVE, while they are trying to fix it with all their might (there were two opinions about the glitches of the chat system - there is not enough power for the hardware and bugs and crooked encoders). To simplify the solution of the issue, we reduced the load on the chat system by turning off the locale at zeros (and corporate, alliance and Intel chat chats died out with them) ā¦ as a result, we observe such tricks in Low - WTF
And I feel they wonāt do it by August 21st ā¦ And remember, they tore the vest on themselves - āIn the near future WE will defeat the glitches of the new chat system or go back to the old ā¦ā So all the goodies are yet to come 
PySy: With bots disconnecting the locale, it was possible to solve the problem easier, so that the bobo bot was there and the players did not suffer much - fan shutdown of the locale for the whole constellation for a time (each time different from 2 hours to 6 hours) randomly. As a result, the players adapted and the bots would be cut with a bang (they would have gone into big losses). and Tru PVP would be happy ā¦ 
To be honest, I still play Eve due to a good bunch of people Iāve met over the years. Local chat being disabled has led to me reassessing whether or at what level i wish to continue.
I like to fly big ships for that I need cynos and other support ships because the group i fly with isnāt a giant blob. Everyone needs to do their bit so we can all do our bit.
As for the blackout and its outcomes; The blackout I can deal with, Iāve always erred on the side of caution with my PVE - Itās the āera of chaosā and what it may bring that has me looking sideways.
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Itās not, in fact. It just moves the āput person in the channelās member listā from āwhen someone enters systemā to āwhen they talkā. You still join the channel immediately. At best, it moves the member list management to the client end (where it probably was already, since the chat system is a completely different server than EVE).
Not actually a load reduction on the chat system at all. And no, theyāre not reverting to the old chat system. That decision was due to be made and executed months ago if they were going to do it.
You didnāt have to invoke a bad google translation as excuse for not reading the posts. If you canāt read because itās not well written, just donāt.
There is no need to get personal.
I tried to explain that your view appears to be strictly from a gankerās (easy kills seekers) perspective. Which I have never said itās wrong. Iām trying to open everyoneās eyes to the fact that a gankerās lifestyle is affected too, simply because there are less targets (many are just docked) and more protected.
You can say that those PVE players just want to sit and capitalize, which is absolutely true. This means that Iām not trying to counter post you. Iām just trying to show a wider perspective. Itās not a sin to be a ganker, nor is it to PVE in a zone you are paying for (with work and organization) and which has multiple factors to consider, starting with SOV, infrastructure and maintenance via required levels of activity. My opinion is that those doing PVE just want a fair chance for their PVP wing to defend.
Now, itās also my opinion that the current situation puts the ganker on higher ground and Iāve explained the reasons.
But itās a higher ground ONLY if the sole objective is ganking, granted that he has prior information about the area or itās activity.
When you want to PVP, BO is not that hot (easy). Both parts have similar lack of information.
I would like to take a closer look into this āimmediateā argument. Simply as exercise to find the underlying mechanism and how BO appears to favor itās absence. For me, more or less there are events and timelines. Observers and incoming threats. Sitting ducks and responsive forces. The speed and flow of information of the moment these are detected, partially reveals the true intentions of all of them. And because of itās similarities to a potential confrontation in a recurrent battleground scenario, is why I consider it irrelevant.
Now, I really like these discussions and always try not to get personal. If when I said that you should try harder it was in some way offensive or you didnāt feel ok, I apologize.
Believe me, when I say try harder, it is because I really do. And even tho English is not my native language, I have tried very hard on educating myself to avoid misunderstandings. I have read that post again and honestly I donāt see where you get that Google translation thing. And I assure you, I will make greater efforts.
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High Sec.
I can top crapping income of anything short of a superā¦easily.
Could you provide a link for this?
Thanks in advance.
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I love blackout! Really can enjoy the game now propetly with all the danger it has in null sec with solo gameplay
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Huh huh huh
Will uh huh huh you ahuh be my Beavis?
Huh huh
Dong
@ Haulie Berry: Very well said! The pendulum has swung way too far the other way now. Itās to the point that I cannot protect myself in null. I have had visitors while ratting, mining and even running anomalies. Further, I prefer not to use the umbrella if I can help it.
The people who are taking the hardest hit is the ālittle guyā in small corps/alliances. There is no umbrella and now they are very easy targets or they go the other way and just donāt undock.
Iām not sure if this is the intent of CCP. But, it would help us all if we knew what CCPās end goal is here. Constructive ideas can be shared to increase the Eve experience but CCP seems to be very tight lipped over this.
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blackout still sucks
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if the real issue was chat bandwidth It could be solved by eliminating local in jita
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I came back to game after a small break, just to see you have once again made a game ruining change. I PAY for 4 sometimes 5 accts with REAL money. to help support this game. If this so called āLocal-blackoutā becomes permanent. im afraid to say that I will not be returning to this game again.
LMAO, devās said that ppl complain about cloaky campersā¦ so your choice is to remove local so we cannot see them? how about make cloaks require fuel?
You stated one month of research is what yall neededā¦ if it continues, you can say goodbye to a loyal MONTHLY subscriber to this game.
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Hilmar made his intent quite obvious - Make the game harder for older established players while making it easier for new players.
Unfortunately I donāt think it can be done without pretty much resetting New Eden.
*The Sov system needs to go - It was never a good idea
*Supers need to go - Super proliferation is the biggest problem facing TQ
*Large mega groups need to go - The larger the group the less reason they have to fight - The larger the group the less likely it is others groups will go to fight them.
*Structures need a complete overhaul - Timers, Damage caps, actual structure spam, all need to be dealt with.,.
*Rorquals need a major overhaul - The ability to multibox so many needs to be addressed, the same as it did when the changes were first announced.
That is just a few of the issues facing CCP and IMO they donāt have a clue how to deal with any one of them, let alone all the issues i havenāt mentioned as wellā¦
I know Iām not posting anything new here - It is stuff that has been posted here and elsewhere for years AND still CCP roll along as if in some mind numbing fog that allows them to ignore what is right in front of them.,.
Theyāve NERFed Incursions.
FoBās donāt always die, so you may have to run.
Trigs is interesting, butā¦
I still think that harming Null like this wonāt work.
This made me resub. Amazing job @CCP_Falcon and your team. Please never remove this, Iāll end up putting eve down again.
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So this change made you resub?
I hope you didnāt take more than a month because if this is the only reason you are returning, Iād guess a month will see you leaving againā¦
Good luck though
NB; Falcon is a community manager - Not a Dev. His input would have meant less than yours when it came to this change.
I am well aware of what they did to incursions. There are other methods in empire.