Out sheer curiosity: Why is CCP not using their meme dumpster any longer?
Since CCP is working down a list of dumb memes with their Chaos Era rubbish, it would be the perfect place for them to put in a Chaos Era row on that page and list all their ideas on that page that have gone into effect. CCP is just as bad as a meme when it comes to long term survivability of an idea: There is the quick hype and then it dies a few weeks later.
Of course itâs doubtful when posts in favor of Blackout show epic activities, god-like performance and endless fun.
bad people! I say. Easy kill seekers who suck from incautiousâ produce, believing that by stating such nonsense, their âcontentâ will undock in Null to play sitting duck again.
Itâs not gonna happen. I donât care about meaningless numbers! people will not PVE the old fashion way. IF it happens, itâs gonna cost gankers a lot more time, effort and coordination to get back in âthe gameâ, things far from bad peopleâs nature.
As I said before, stop trying to mock the sun. No one that counts out of the donutbrella is happy with BO and the cyno nerf will bring little PVE back to Null.
Let me know when the adrenaline rush from flying blind wears off. You will see how alone you are, how your âtargetsâ disappear and then it will be impossible to backpedal your trolling in the Forum. You can still act now.
Other than cancelling my subs (which I already did), it is not much we can do.
CCP doesnt read this forum anyway
Is it just me? I keep trying to figure out where all this is leading and it almost seems that CCP is slowly turning nullsec into WH. No local, kill the cynos, will they disable the gates next? or make them only work sporadically? How far will they take this? Will they kill SOV? It looks like everything is on the table. Its anyoneâs guess what Hilmarâs hammer will strike next. As each nerf hits, it makes me question if I am willing to keep playing this not so fun game of Russian roulette
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I donât really feel the need to prove anything to youâŚbut as you seem to feel that killboard stats are of interestâŚplease also see RuleOfTheBone. Who also spends time in a Guardian or doing other scouty things (as does JJ) that would not be reflected on any killboard.
I am also a returning paying subscriber and actually know plenty of others who returned to enjoy the game BECAUSE of removing null local.
Sorry to rain on your gloomy, mediocre, and generally false narrative.
Have a nice day âSgtâ 
edit I have also been around EvE long enough to remember the rallying cry of âPost With Your Mainâ as the pinnacle of idiotic counter-arguments. Iâm having fun in EvE again and thatâs what counts. Your presumption that killboard=âsomething importantâ is no improvement on PWYM and actually means less.
But you go on with your one-man-band effort ofâŚwhatever it is you are trying to achieve via the forums.
I hate to over simplify, but if the goal was to increase destruction and decrease industry it seems pretty clear that a major deployment achieves that. How about a change that actually encourages large entities to engage each other instead of causing them to turtle up and avoid conflict ? the blackout doesnât make them want to deploy and risk fleets, the cyno change doesnât make large scale fleet movements easier, The changers you are making are the polar opposites of your apparent intentions.
I suspect TZâs more of an issue for some areas than others.
I dunno about you guys but Iâm making assloads of isk because of the blackout. I hope it stays like this!!!
If 80 players in any ship drop one a single player anywhere, that solo play should die regardless of ship types. If itâs 80 bombers, capital ships should be the least viable counterâfrigs should be almost immune to themâit should take a well organized group of subcaps to counter them.
Nor do ratters and miners have to wait or âhopeâ thereâs one in rangeâthat force recon should be cloaked with them to do itâs one jobâto call in help from a group.
Personally , this null player loves both the blackout and incoming cyno changes-- I hope itâs just the tip of the iceberg of chaos, either by changing other mechanics that favor super fleets, change the overhead (such as have capitals take resources like structures to keep combat ready), or making the drifters effectively Thorâs hammer to discourage overbuilding.
If 80 corvettes drop on a titan, no, it should not die. It should simply smartbomb them to death while the BFGâs on cooldown. 
Except, if you pay attention, the issue was âsmall scaleâ groups. The dynamic changes there, and because of manpower limitations, they might have one force recon in a system, covering ratters and miners, rather than one with each big thing.
The Blackout, and the cyno changes, arenât actually doing anything about the stagnation in EVE. Theyâre not addressing the real problems. CCP making it more difficult for people to lose their supercapitals is not helping.
And thatâs all that this does, when taken in total. Less incentive to use them, and more obstacles to doing something stupid, means fewer supers dying, and more of them laying around for when thereâs a war. Having more of them laying around like that means everyone needs more to fight back against the ones laying around.
Until they address the root causes of the stagnation, theyâre not going to fix it. Itâs all just deck chairs on the Titanic until they grow a pair and do something about supercapitals. #Deathtoallsupers is still a thing, and itâs still the right answer.
Ok fair enoughâŚbut bombers are not corvettes and I actually think even a titan should be afraid of 80 bombers. but we can disagree. Team work should be rewarded almost more than anything else in this gameâup and until the point it threatens the very game itselfâas it happening in NS.
"Except, if you pay attention, the issue was âsmall scaleâ groups. " I donât follow your logic. Small groups were getting demolished, almost always being met by huge gate camps with HIC and far too effective supers on gates. Itâs now far easier for small groups to roam around. The cyno change wonât much of anything, especially for the big blocksâif they could afford to pay for multiple alts camping every system across entire regionsâthan putting them into force recons will be a trivial expense by comparison.
As for stagnation, I agree with you. Thereâs few reasons to fight. For players defenders the easiest and safest thing is staying docked upâand if worse comes to worse they let asset safely protect almost all their assets. For attacking playersâthereâs clearly little to win with no potential for huge loot drops from destroyed structures (not even pocos with hundred of millions, or Keepstars with trillions in them) and when a single region like Dwelve can be built in such as way to practically outproduce the rest of nullâwhy expand or spread out at allâother than ego. Lets not get kid ourselves though-- fights were never the biggest isk sinks to eveâplayer attrition has always been.
If theyâre close enough to point it, theyâre in Smartbomb range. No titan should fear 80 frigates in range of its smartbombs.
Small groups⌠mining and ratting. Not small groups of hunters. A group the size of say, FLEEP, living and making money in null, as opposed to a group the size of SLYCE.
The current situation in regards with BO and the upcoming cyno changes has the majority of the community moving to conclude two possible currents:
CCP is making a âSoft Resetâ of Null. Making it so unrewarding that they can intro all the required changes and kind of make it start from scrap. (taken from Talking in Stations S3E15 July MER Analysis).
There is no plan, no direction and the BO was thrown in as a faucet control which as collateral did hurt Bots, and that is welcome. The BO hit the faucet so hard that cyno changes are on the way as attempt to balance a bit.
It is not clear why Delve becomes the tabula rasa to qualify the effects of BO. There is a lot of activity there but also, there was a lot of turmoil in the area recently and if current numbers are compared with recent history, even Delve has problems.
There is some stability in the numbers, in terms of all of them reacting pretty much evenly (less coming in, less going out) in most economic aspects which is impossible to use as tool for an accurate conclusion.
In essence, there seems to be too much going on for the July MER to be useful. Same as the PCU (Server Population) that was presented as indicator of great results when itâs simultaneously affected by promotions.
Nothing to see here, no. The chaos is far from chaotic. Truth is there is a migration to Lowsec for the Moons which was predictable and will grow as the BO keeps going.
One thing was a bit surprising: WH outputs 12 trillion compared to Null combined of 28 trillion in blue loot. (again, from talking in stations) which makes WHâs more lucrative and without local, more people will feel familiar in WH space. There are a bunch of peeps going there too.
What most agree with is that in essence, there is no chaos. Some hope for a big content intro soon to happen and there is a lot of speculation. Some say Triglavians will begin gaining SOV starting with Drone Regions, etc. Others expect Invasion Chapter II⌠but go to 1:35:45 of the Youtube vid
There you will get the general reaction from the majority.
This is why no one believes that anything worth mentioning is happy with these changes. Here it yourselves and see that pretty much everyone is hoping this is being done for something better but current situation is unsustainable.
Like what?
This makes no sense, as any impact on ratting will be in the same direction as the Blackout.
Sorry but i donât count kills by blob groups as anything to judge the health of the game by.
Roaming around in little risk averse gangs killing ratters and miners, that thanks to CCP have no idea youâre coming - Isnât real content.
Nulsec ganking is REAL.
I hope you are wrong about this - Because if the biggest, best organised, wealthiest group in the game canât deal with these changes - The rest of us a totally screwed.
I donât like Goons at all, as i donât like the other bloc groups but if they canât find ways to survive and thrive during these changes (which i personally doubt, for the most part they already have), what chance do small/er groups, those who are being hit the hardest, have?
All regions are bound to have things come up and see activity drop when change comes - But the fact Delve is still so far above the curve compared to the rest of Nul, I think the changes are having far less impact on them than elsewhere.
What an absolutely awesome way to drive even more players out of Sov Nul.
NPCâs (CCP) taking and holding sov - If this has come up as a development strategy, even as a joke - CCP needs to take a really good hard look at why they are still operating as a gaming company.,.
Death or Glory - We need content drivers to get Supers on the field of battle and getting killed.,.
CCP donât seem to understand, for every 10 subcap ships destroyed (example only) in Nulsec a new Super comes out of build.
Problem with this is - there is no reason to use the Supers and coming soon, reduced ability to get them onto a battlefield if anyone did want to use them.,.
I and many others would put our Supers on the line - If we had good reason to AND a chance of success.
Nothing, exceptâŚ
Ratting bounty down to 29T/month in July from 48T/month in June, and thatâs counting the 12 days during which people probably ratted like mad before Blackout.
Branch went from 4.9 to 1.6
Cobalt Edge from 2.1 to 0.8
Dekelin from 2.7 to 1.2
Providence from .832 to .400
However, Delve went from 1.5 to 4.7 due to the tribute campaign ending. April was pre-tribute war and had 8.4.
Most nullsec regions saw bounties drop to around 30% of the June total. While âhighly populatedâ regions (Delve, Providence, Esoteria) dropped to around 50% of the june total (April total used for Delve due to deployment).
Delve has problems too
Tell you what: use May.
Also: that doesnât tell me what âturmoilâ thereâs been âin the area recentlyâ, as opposed to say, âall over nullsecâ.
IDK where the logic for such speculation comes from, I mean listen to the MER analysis⌠My point is, some people are so desperate on seeing a positive outcome about these changes, that they even venture to say triglavians will take SOV⌠listen to it yourself. Itâs not me.
Not mine⌠itâs a quote from reports analysis out there. I just bring it because itâs stated that way. You are welcome to fetch it and discuss it over there.
Maybe you are missing the point or hurry before checking but as I said, why is Delve used as example when talking about BO effects? why people run to say that it has anything to do with the campaign? I agree Delve numbers should be better but even those donât look as good as they could be.
I donât think Delve is a conclusive example to quantify the BO effects. But Iâve found the same recurrence in multiple July MER opinions and always bring Delve.
Maybe you think otherwise.
I tried to enumerate what was expressed on the MER observations from people that are considered reliable and who represent a variety of groups. If someone has a better perspective or knows better, maybe should open a line of discussion or research to find out whats going on.