We’d have to have some idea of what CCP intends their function to be.
But no, the cyno changes aren’t going to solve the problems of supers. They’re going to lead to more supers, because fewer supers will die stupidly. It’s not the stuff getting made that’s causing problems. It’s stuff not blowing up. And as long as these things are necessary for holding space at any scale… they’re not gonna get tossed into a fight if there’s a serious chance of losing them.
And if we pile up MOAR band-aids? I mean, I think it’s what Rise said? more or less… I saw one empty box already marked “In case of coca-cola cyno changes only!. use sparringly”…
More band-aids won’t do squat.
They need to address the actual problem, not kick it down the road. It’s hit the point where there is no more ‘down the road’. They’re not getting rid of the massive superfleets with these things. They’re not disincentivizing building more of them.
Band-aids won’t help. Addressing symptoms won’t help. Flailing around in the dark the way CCP is doing right now… won’t help.
I think that is a slight on Hilmars “purple donut” - I smiled.,.
Sure it won’t help but they have become very good at it
I felt this was the appropriate thread to bring this up on.
I wonder if this pilot is a member of one of the big blocks. I keep hearing CCP say that they want to stimulate new player retention. This guy seam like he has accepted the challange that is eve, but has this “blackout” actually helped ?
The issue I saw and still see with the blackout in null is that the big blocks can adapt to keep members semi safer while smaller blocks and new groups will struggle. Just myopinion, but would live to hear from others about this,
Ok, listen to this: Please go to 1:39:00
Wait till you hear:
“…'cause they are trying to keep those numbers up as high as possible…”
And how he gets immediately cut with yet an other void argument, Implying there is some strange unknown underearth force expelling CCP’s efforts to give players what they’ve been asking but it doesn’t work while WOW is doing exactly the same successfuly
I am disappointed not only for not having a voice of reason out there for us players but more on the deceptive agenda of those who pretend to speak for us.
I bet there is nothing to do against that one either.
With such deception crapscade, who would want to keep playing this game?
Man, we’re tough! Phuk this $hit!
Meh, I have to agree and echo:
Thx Arrendis, I couldn’t have put it better.
Hey, o/. I am a single man corporation with 8 alts now. ( I have one friend that is never online ). I am still venturing in to NULL with a Loki and Stratios Multiboxed. I have a couple of systems that I travel to and farm.
This blackout has made my game play very much *all over the place… that I am enjoying. As I am not as safe in NULL anymore I am forced to be more strategic and have backup plans. Before blackout I was way to relaxed in what should be more difficult and unforgiving territory.
So from my perspective, being about 100 days old, in a single man Corp, with no friends, I am 100% loving Eve the way it is, even though I am not involved in a big corp or alliance and I am surviving and enjoying my time.
I will add, that if I was not in a position to fund my gaming through my own means, I probably would not have been able to set myself up as well as I have for these changes, and my NULL experience is within NPC Null mostly with the exception of diving through wormholes and ending up in someone elses territory , just being cautious within the big Alliances and not making too much noise. I often log out in space if I am deep in to the middle of nowhere and just watch what goes on, I literally sit with a cloaked Loki and Stratios watching what these Alliances are doing for the sake of learning.
Leave blackout the way it is. It fits in well for players like myself. I really hope it stays, its very exciting and immersing gameplay.
To me it is very exciting to hear about new players like yourself. As a 9+ year vet of eve I have seen many changes since I started playing eve. Some I agreed with others I didn’t.
I am curious though. From your perspective, would you make an attempt to set up a home in nullsec and your reasoning behind your decision?
I’ve said this before in previous discussions about changing local, and I’ll say it again. Local is not the only form of “free intel” in the game. One quick look at the in-game map and you can see statistics on NPC and player ships destroyed in the last hour. Where are the “hunters” asking for that intel to be removed?
What they want are canned hunts. For those unfamiliar with the term, a canned hunt is effectively a hunting trip with a guaranteed trophy buck that is high-fenced into a small range and predictably feeds at a feeder that dispenses high protein feed and conveniently serves as the spot where the harvest takes place.
Actually having to scout systems without free intel on NPC kills is too much work; they want to show up at a system, scan for pirate wrecks and get kills that way.
I can see a bit of nostalgia coming from vets like you that I chat too, I am probably walking the path many have walked 10+ years ago and most remember what it was like finding there way in Eve as a new player.
To your question, I have a 2nd home out in N-6Z8B. The reasons for setting up in that area are because of an amazing market set up in the middle of nowhere. Where a solo newby like myself can buy just about anything…
The main trade hub is run by some very experienced and well organised Pvp Corps that will not completely obliterate someone like myself as they can see I am not going to step on any toes. Outside this system it is dangerous so it is a good balance between reasonably safe trade zone run by locals and anything can happen.
(Player run free trade hubs that are neutral are a fantastic idea IMO and would probably bring more people like myself to NULL and hence generate more content)
And I do the usual Ratting, DED sites, Wormhole exploration and hunting, also moving my loot to a Blockade Runner alt and running back and forth from RENS is actually engaging as im being strategic about not landing inside bubbles etc. Although atm Im in lowsec il be setting up again Logged out in whatever system I land in when I find a good WH exit to NULL and start all over again in another area with a means to play and survive. And without the trade hub close by the next challenge will be stocking blockade runners with more gear.
Sub 10,000 players is nearing. The sad thing is that even if CCP removed BO, the trust between their players has been broken. I look forward to see what kind of player out-reach sales that will come in few months time. Will 50% Game time sale be enough to recover? Let’s find out.
That is great. I am glad there are still new players such as yourself getting in to the basics of eve. Fly well if not totally safe
o7 you too mate
Would enjoy chatting with you more in game if you ever fancy some friendly chat
Id like that, looks like you’ve got a pretty organised group hey.
when thos this black-out stops
1 customer re-sub and returning because of BO.
VS
A Corp with 37 paid customers just folded because of BO.
3/4 are out and wont be back as long as BO still active. 1/4 not sure what to do.
1:37 = is a good trade? Ummm must be a good trade in CCP book because BO is still active 
I think this is a perspective, a very well constructed narrative of a course of action, a map that shows your ample knowledge of… excuse me, what did you think when pondering the situation of those that have played fair and which friends are either out, or on their way out of EVE because of the BO?
I hope you don’t have an answer, as you have just one friend. Some people here have friendships dating more that the quasi decade of your parlamate Bowbndr.
Listen, I don’t really want your answer. You can spare the effort for when the next string on your wrist gets pulled again. I don’t care, TBH.
I just want to illustrate to you that there is no use on the joy you pretend to have if you consider others in dire situation. Again and in simple words, you can’t enjoy a meal in front of the homeless. This says more about you than any other new, new narration of “a perfect toon’s life tale”.
In any case, as you seem to “adapt” so well and have no need to question absolutely anything regarding the BO, I don’t think you expect any action remotely better from CCP, you don’t really need them to work in anything a tad less mediocre than the BO, you don’t want progress in the community, you failed to detect that the BO is affecting a specific and numerous segment, you don’t care for anyone’s past or friendship history, you cannot see anything of that crap.
You have played your card and spent the only chance to show otherwise. Don’t pick that card up. I can’t think of anyone who cares on your attempt to fix what you said. Essentially, I think you are not playing an MMO. You are playing internet spaceships by yourself in a swamp of pixel crocodiles. I can’t get your joy, honestly. This is not a poll, don’t forget!
Please do not compare the path you described with the one of a 10+ years EVE player. The reason why you are alone, is because you could age in 100 days what those players couldn’t and did not want to do in more than 200 days Those players did truly enjoy every single blink of a skill level and never hesitated to climb one of the steepest ladders in gaming history together with friends. You, as described, just went shopping at some bodega.
Not to mention the fact that to get there, 100 days were paid by you plus whatever Plex in $ or converted to ISK, injectors, etc… . Try to figure how much was invested to achieve half of what you’ve done for the time it would have taken to really work on it as those 10+ yo players.
Then, maybe you’d feel entitled to a debatable opinion and express it. If you’d be fair, I bet it will be a different one.
I guess CCP welcomes a type of player like you, because if that’s the market segment objective, then Op Success. It will look way nicer to you once CCP tries to squeeze that money I invited you to calculate (and didn’t) from your own, very real wallet. I bet you don’t see that coming.