Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

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You know that ‘the blue donut’ refers to the groups encircling high/low in nullsec, right? That it needs the whole thing to be the ‘blue donut’?

One group did that to NC/PL/PH… PanFam is, now that FRT’s officially part of PanFam, the 2nd-largest part of the ‘blue donut’.

No, Falcon was never part of PL. Falcon was in Veto. Larrikin was in PL. Hellmar is in j-space. Other CCPers come from (and are active in) other areas of the game.

And no, the timing of the ‘era of chaos’ didn’t have anything to do with what we were doing up north. If it did, they’d have waited until Mittens committed to hitting Malpais, and we were in the middle of moving forward to start the Drifter attacks and announce the Blackout, rather than starting the onslaught right as we had a window to pull back to Delve. If not for that coincidence, we’d have been in no position to defend anything when the Blackout hit.

Please stop taking your tinfoil as a suppository.

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or the “Purple donut”, that Hillmar was hinting at? guess that means all null is in bed with each other or something romantic? politics is not my thing i guess.

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No, it just means Hilmar’s wormhole group is probably so small, when they’re on, they’re all in fleet together. So friends/allies are Purple to him, instead of Blue (which is set by standings or being in the same alliance).

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Oh jeeze, these personal attacks on the devs. ■■■■ getting real boi.

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True as we don’t know how many Alpha accounts are included in the graphs.

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You guys guess too much. Eve is now part of a publicly traded entity. According to Pearl Abyss quarterly earnings report, Eve revenues grew 3% year over year in 2nd Q then CCP starts the “chaos”. You will start to see the real effect of the blackout, positive or negative, in the Q3 report. Wait for it, then whoever is right can eGloat.

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You really think Alpha accounts stopped playing because of Black out?

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About a month ago I was called stupid because I projected Activity levels had dropped by 13k. As it has now been more time to see the numbers, it has dropped by 12k. Typically in online activity, 10-15 percent of your players are online at any given time. If activity has dropped by 12k, that is 120,000 to 170,000 accounts no longer playing. Perhaps the numbers are off a bit, because some people just sit in station logged in, who knows. It is certain though that NULL is pretty dead and activity had dropped to 2006 levels. I am not sure what CCP intended, but I am sure it didn’t include losing millions of dollars. The market is feeling it too, some items like Excavator drones have lost over half their value.

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And this has what to do with subscription funds?

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btw i don’t mind bitching… in fact EVE Forums is the designated dumping ground for bitching and salt… I like to drop a load in this trash heap every so often…

I don’t expect anyone to read it or for it to be anyones gold nugget that fixes EVE… I think eve is fine… just it is not any better; and slightly worse with the dumb ass changes… which are in fact dumb AF… so … expect more periodic salt and bitching … and protesting by not paying CCP… and not logging in too much cause I’m a saltly bitch that CCP broke my favorite toys…

Squeaky wheels get oil… so might as well…

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CCP is DEAD , EVE IS DEAD …players - 20000 Units ….

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:slight_smile: EVE is dying… every computer games dies eventually.

Just the matter how EVE dies and how EVE want to be remembered :smiley:

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Are you @Salvos_Rhoska ?

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You could discuss about numbers and speculate about the company’s fate all you want.
All of that is useless.

The in-game experience is what matters.

And currently, it sucks!
Maybe not for you, or that guy there or those in the rainy corner. It doesn’t matter.

Whatever you do, wherever you are, your history, age, group, career, experience, HS, LS, Empire, WH… The “chaos era” will get you and your time spent in game will suck too …
And big time 'cause you will have no way to backpedal all the BS you said here.

No one who has ever played EVE can say the Blackout or the so called “chaos” is a good thing in the long run.
Whoever does, has either an agenda or just lacks cause-consequence analytic capacity.

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This has been obvious at CCP for many years.
Big fights attracted media attention, which attracted new players, which put more money into CCP’s pocket. Much of which sadly was diverted to other and many failed projects that also took development time and Devs away from Eve.

The “long term vision” based around new sov, structures, rorqual changes, etc - Failed at the new sov but rather than stop and see if it could be fixed, CCP management forged ahead and released one broken update after another compounding on the poor game play around FozzieSov until - Here we are today.

Many players could foresee what was coming and many more tried to warn CCP of their mistakes and lack of foresight but CCP management had a “vision” and right or wrong they were seeing it through - The people who spoke out against FozzieSov, Rorqual changes, 1 week to kill structures, Haw guns for Titans and the many other things that have got the game to where it is now - Were told, you are just carebears, fools, you don’t like change and the one that scared me the most - CCP know what they are doing.

Now due to years of, (no other words for it) “neglect”, poor decisions and inaction by CCP - They are once again forcing change on the player base without looking at the long term affects it will have on the game.
Even now we are seeing some of the less favourable outcomes of BO, one of those being, large dominating groups are getting bigger. Another being large swathes of Sov nul abandoned, systems where there was hundreds of players online every day are now all but devoid of life - And CCP’s answer to this, forge ahead with the “era of chaos”.

Alienating a large % of your player base in any game is always bad - doing it in a game that is nearly 20 years old and has always been very niche …

CCP need to stop now, take a good hard look at the state of the game, not just the MER, I mean really look at what is happening at a grass roots level and formulate a plan that will bring about “real” change.
The time for secret squirrel development is over - Talk to the players, look at the area/s of the game you want to change with open eyes and most of all, get away from the “easy fix is best fix”.

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the only players they want to hear from are the ones that like what is happening. you know, the ones that left but came back when kills got easy for them. They abandoned the players that stayed and played in favor of the “best change ever” crowd. Sure most of us adapted. many left. but why was it necessary? to appease some marginal number of lazy pvp pilots that now have to bomb epithals. I am still wondering what vision CCP has. Because it isn’t fun gameplay or action between large groups

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@Burinot Because they have no balls, they are smoking some badly created Iceland weed and drinking the worst russian vodka around…And that is to be polite…

@Mark_Marconi would you please stop with your non-sense? Losing people has never fixed a game. Go ask the numbuts over at Americas Army and the DoD (US Department of Defense) dumb-asses .
And no, bots have adjusted, RMT people have moved to different areas.

Bottom line: CCP needs to get their head out of their asses, stop screwing with the game, apologize for this 2 month + debacle, restore local and stay away from sov null.

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After 13+ years I’ve unsubscribed mostly due to this change. My game in null was negatively impacted and I didn’t enjoy playing my small game (majority of my time) under these terms.

There have been some other really poor decisions recently too, like no alliance tournament this year, player owned jump gates, citadel spam, etc.

The problem now is there are very few new players (I believe) coming along that are going to have any interest in playing & staying compared to yesteryear, so changes like this simply shed more oldtimers then would naturally be expected. Less players means reduced engagement for the remaining players, which I imagine will result in more losses.

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It will continue until CCP gets some balls, explain their thinking, restores local and apologizes for this mess.

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America’s Army was a great game back in the day; hell I even joined the Army … was that good… btw the game was better than real life