Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

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EDIT: I do aggree tho multiboxed afk rorq/drone ratter fleets are ■■■■ and need limitations but its no reason to fk all of nullsec.

You must be trolling; all the players that have stopped playing is a big deal; and if anyone thinking people quitting because they are actively getting fcked by CCP is not a big deal… well then fck you…

and if your just some short term player… that got on reddit and just likes to sperg… just STFU

Driving players that have played for 10+ years out of the game; CCP if that is not a priority issue for you… you deserve to fail as a company.

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Look at the axes - they’ve barely moved. Wow classic is the only real dip I see and even this minor downtrend is in the seasonal noise.

The larger game is fine. It ain’t fixed, but activity isn’t cratering like some will tell you. Massively parallel easy resource generation in nullsec is not fine however. It has been severely curtailed, exactly as CCP intended.

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WTF are you talking about… there was 30k people on not long ago; now its barely 20k…

that is 1/3 of the players… WTF are you talking about… just STFU… you are clearly trolling…

The numbers alone should have sent CCP the message of a problem; you fking trolls are not helping…MOST lost players will not return; some will… so for growth youll be relying on CCP’s innovative abilities to GROW the population significantly … just to break even

As demonstrated… CCP aint exactly the most innovative lately… so please stop making ■■■■ worse…

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Jumps per day, kills per day are going down. Is this a good thing then?

Soi I am helping CCP by not logging in. :slight_smile:

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The important thing is the number of subs and people buying plex with rl cash, not the number logged in.

Losing someone who paid for their account with ISK (null bears) is a net gain, not in dollars which is the same, but in game quality.

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Well you keep telling yourself that, everyone loves the “chaos” era, seasonal fluctuations, WOW, just bots! Maybe you will prove to be right.

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The moment you have to read into Hilmar’s statements, he’s not clearly communicating, he’s speaking in enough opacity that you have to read into it.

And no, these changes haven’t cleared out much of the ‘problem’ you’re complaining about. The ships aren’t gone. The characters aren’t gone. They’re just not being used right now. The optimal method for making buttloads of minerals hasn’t changed in the broad strokes at all. All that’s happened is that the small concerns have been pushed into idleness, while the large concerns are growing, and will continue to grow as they sight in on the new tweaks and slight variations needed to maximize profits.

And now, let’s look at those ‘kills per day’ as the Blackout… has them settling in, after the first flurry, at a level below April/May. So hey, good jorb, Hamscray. The Chaos Era has had no major impact on destruction. @whee.

If you believe it’s the multiboxers who are getting hit… I invite you to hie yer butt to Delve, where the vast fleets of Rorqs continue to be 1-2 people.

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You don’t know how commerce works do you? Say I buy plex with cash so I don’t have to krab for ships to pvp…who buys my plex for isk? People willing to krab for me. That is right, I am buying them a game pass to rat/mine for me. We need to cut that out and make everyone do their own krabbing. Is that the game quality you seek?

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Never gonna happen. That thing you want to cut out is literally the exact brilliant microtransaction concept Pearl Abyss bought CCP for. That ability to sell PLEX for ISK is pretty much the core of what’s kept the lights on once the VCs didn’t want it anymore.

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That was sarcasm.

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All those numbers, I told you guys… they don’t mean anything when played in the hands and minds of the average Cro-magnon.

They are just pictures capturing a moment in a constant data flow.

But…

Within the game, the economics are based on standard accounting rules of demand/offer. Less demand, less offer = stable lines. Nothing more, nothing less, period.

In real life, the concurrency is not. The number of connected accounts just tell you the activity, not how many are paying. In other words, the PCU shows more than those who pay. COMPRENDE?

The truth is, most of the accounts that are not logging have paid for a time they are not using, showing their frustration, protesting for now. The question is: Once the dormant accounts become inactive accounts (no renewal), what do?

That minimum sustainable is getting close too fast. I’m not inventing it. It’s just observation of data with the help of a simple spreadsheet set.
No one but CCP knows that number, that minimum required for the game to be financially viable (not stable, the stability is gone atm).

Now, any Neanderthal would think that the protest, if any, will end… Na-haa… the movement will not stop unless there is action simply because, CCP DID NOT ESTABLISH A TIMELINE FOR THE BO OR THE CHAOS ERA. So, no one is stepping back and letting it flow. People simply will not renew if nothing happens, if whatever is causing the steep decline doesn’t stop!

I’m just saying it HAS to be AT LEAST STOPPED. Not the BO,… THE EFFING DECLINE RATE DAMMIT!

Because it will not spring back, no matter how much the pumice over your shoulders portrays the optimistic cretin!

That rate dictates without doubt that there are 4 to 6 months left of financial sustainability.
The internal issues (playability) are ALREADY compromised, which means that the decline rate WILL REMAIN!!

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I think the important thing is… is the game fun… do people feel drawn to play it… does EVE still give people that THING they play eve for… for alot … yeah it still does… but for 1/3 it seems not…

I’m not so much interested in gaming numbers or theorizing about CCPs profit margins…

I think CCP need stop the BO; or at least MAKE AN ATTEMPT to stop the decline in population… and give some reassurance to the player base… cause alot have not quit but are VERY unhappy… and its a game dude… not a disgruntle job anyone is forced to do… and they WILL quit…

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Dear CCP , if you looking for your playerbase , they are moved to Second Galaxy :smiley: , have a fun with your BO as we actually do have a fun somewhere else …

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I know exactly how it works and the people who buy the plex with isk don’t change the companies bottom line at all. If 5000 of them leave that is 5000 less players dumping resources into the economy, and 5000 less customers for plex, reducing plex demand and plex prices. Plus these players do not represent significant destruction.

Net net their departure is a good thing, no financial change to CCP and a improvement in the economy in game.

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FFS!
PLEX is not BITCOIN!

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It looks shallow and the trailer was so fuzzy on my 4k monitor I’m pretty sure I don’t need to see the real game.

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I don’t think most people only plex; most just sub… I sub my main and plex my alts; often just plex the alts from CCP if saving up isk for a project.

Doing all isk plex now; can probably hold that for a year even without making any isk or selling assets… sub turns back on once the game stabilizes … Do I think anyone cares… no but it’s all I can do… and bitch on the forums…

5000 players is 5000 players; the loss of them might be good for someone’s meta-game but it is completely bad for the community and player base.

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Folks… PLEX is purchased with real money. So whether a player plays with a CC or PLEX, there is absolutely no difference.

-Player A buys PLEX to sell on market with real money.
-Player B buys that exact PLEX with ISK.
The PLEX was bought by Player A with real money.
No difference between either player when it comes to CCPs pocket.

I’m mean, even the BOTs put money in CCPs pocket, PLEX is only in the game if purchased with REAL money.

Nuke

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People who think CCP loosing 1/3 of it’s cahflow within so short a time is not a problem are not even worth talking to - there is a level of stupit one simply does not argue with…

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Losing 1/3 of logins is not the same as losing 1/3 of cashflow.

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