Well at least we can turn on our mega blob bots back on. Make a ton of isk and continue collect our ships. At least losing any ships is now meaningless. Let the Millennial war begin.
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If you think it is so safe, come on out and shoot people with ease, itâs safe! Oh I know, you meant it isnât safe for YOU because the home team is organized. How about instead of telling everyone how to play, you just worry about yourself?
Leveling playing fields isnât going to happen. Full stop. Attempts at hard-coded systems to do it would just mean the large groups rely even more on out-of-game tools to coordinate and cooperate. Where those tools donât exist, theyâll build them, same as we built GTS.
As long as thereâs PvP, some people will opt for the simplest solution: bring more guys.
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Of course not. But you can improve on the current status quo which is fuckinâ atrocious in that regard. You wonât get level playing fields, but everything that helps towards a more level playing field than what we have now is a good thing.
Except hard-coded systems donât do that. Theyâre just as susceptible to brute-force application of manpower as option/counteroption systems, only thereâs no counter for the brute-force.
They demonstrably do. The big blocs are better at adjusting to them, but they canât just magic it away like they could with your âplay/counterplayâ thing.
Edit: Blocs. Sorry, my brain is mush today. Blocs, not Blobs. Although in some things blobs also apply.
They demonstrably donât. Did the small groups find the blackout to be a more level playing field, compared to the big groups, or did the big groups retain a larger percentage of their income, and a larger percentage of their active players? Just looking at the MER, we can see the answer to that. Null regions where bigger groups operate showed a proportionately lower percentage of decline in economic activity.
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Big groups were less affected, correct. I have acknowledged this. This doesnât mean they werenât affected at all, like they would be with your âplay/counterplayâ thing, where the only thing thatâd matter is how much resources you can shovel into âcounterplayâ. And yes, smaller groups found it to be a more level playing field than the current status quo.
Except thatâs not ânot affectedâ. If you have to put resources into it, thatâs resources you donât have for other things. And no, smaller groups did not find it to be a more level playing field. Smaller groups faced existential difficulty in maintaining active numbers and resource flow. Provi damn near completely collapsed by the end of it. ADMs in lower-population areas cratered, making smaller groupsâ sov more vulnerable than that of the large groups.
I donât know what planet you live on where thatâs âa more level playing fieldâ, but if youâre trying to compare small hunting groups to the people who actually live in null and use that space, thatâs not even apples and oranges. Thatâs apples and Yugos.
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they should have kept the blackout, null is meant to be a dangerous area and between local chat informing intel channels of every +1 in local from the safety of station docked alts from every bottleneck system and every major alliance having lovely fixed borders and half of them having peace accords with their neighbors its really not dangerous for anyone who is established there for them its safer than high sec allowing them to rat in supercarriers and mine in rorqs making billions with almost zero risk in their little safe spaces and due to local being the easiest way to track incoming anyone entering any null region who is not a local gets hot dropped long before they can reach the whales little safe space back end systemsâŚ
its a sad state of affairs when the region of the game intended as a shifting fluid area of conflict has turned into a mega corp love in where all wars are sanctioned and pre arranged borders are fixed and 90% of null is a stagnant safe space for whales and bots to run multiple caps with zero risk
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More like most small groups in Null pretty much got razed to the ground economically because they donât have anywhere near the same reserves or options of bigger entities. Hunters very much can drive smaller prey extinct by over-hunting. And during the black out it was a feeding frenzy.
Sub-cap pilots that need to rat for doctrine ships and other stuff cannot weather that brand of bullcrap the same as a veteran player with many more alts, alternate income streams, and a capital that can live long enough to actually be saved.
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I genuinely canât give less of a crap what bears did. Iâm talking about actual players out making and receiving trouble, and every such group Iâm in contact with thrived. These are the people who live in null that I care even slightly about. Not the people who die off because they canât bear in 100% safety.
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Fun tidbit: Millenials have been becoming adults for about 2 decades now, conceivably, some have kids going through college now. Rough range for a millenial is 23-38 years old. A fairly sizable chunck of the working adult population I suspect. If EVERYTHING were destroyed by their touch, well, we wouldnât have the vast majority of things that exist now, unless of course the assumption is nobody under 39 holds an important or critical job anywhere ever.
Blackout probably has uses which has come apparent from the changed behaviour, what would alliances do, if their sovereignty was subjected to Blackout due to high levels of botting activity? Hell, if the anecdotes about the relatively Barren state of formerly bot infested territory is anything to go by, Iâd say itâs probably a /very/ effective tool for bot removal at the moment.
It could even be a throwaway lore piece about suspected rogue drone infected ship systems attempting to hack CONCORD or something which would have affected regions under blackout.
Well, CCPâs reaction pretty clearly indicates that those people arenât enough to make things work. For all the insistence in certain quarters that weâd see more âreal playersâ come back than weâd see people stop logging in and/or cancel accounts, if theyâd been right, CCP wouldnât have felt the need to undo the Blackout.
So, while I can certainly sympathize with those whose utter pomposity and sense of entitlement leads them to label themselves âactual playersâ, itâs pretty obvious that an ecosystem made up of mostly predators is one that quickly collapses.
CCPâd do a lot better by addressing actual problems in null, instead of listening to a minority who really just want to take a crap all over a larger subset of paying customers. And that includes Falcon.
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â66 Days after Blackout, we realised that player activity and subscriptions had declined to such a point where we need to rectify our mistake. â
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Which is not what we were talking about, was it? I was talking about the player groups that were thriving and considered it a more level playing field, even if you seem to prefer to ignore they exist in this situation.
Hard limitations demonstrably do work better at providing a more level playing field when you include the people who actually make things happen, and donât just focus on the worthless people who only function if null is safer than highsec. âPlay/Counterplayâ doesnât affect mega-blocs at all unless said counterplay is so difficult that it drains said megablocs enough that literally no one else could counterplay at all.
When blocs have infinite resources, and with super-umbrellas, isk and ore fountains shitting out infinite amounts of both, they very much do⌠well, nothing can affect them except hard limitations.
Sure, hard limitations demonstrably work better at âleveling the playing fieldâ if you define âleveling the playing fieldâ as âme getting my wayâ.
The 1927 Yankees were one of the best teams in history. Itâs not a coincidence that their line-up was nicknamed âMurdererâs Rowâ. Iâm pretty sure nobody with a lick of sense would consider tossing them onto a rugby pitch with the All Blacks a âlevel playing fieldâ. They play two different games. Itâs not a valid comparison at all.
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I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. I donât have a way to get out there at this point. Havenât for a long time.
⌠Iâm sure this is relevant somehow. Iâm thinking⌠sports, from about a hundred years ago between⌠someone. And someone.
Is âAll Blacksâ a racism thing? Am I way off track here?
Are there clubs involved versus weird handeggs? Christ, you could NOT have made a more opaque metaphor to a northern Norwegian that isnât even into contemporary local sports.
Iâm going to start using Kjerringløft as metaphors and expect them to work.
Eh I didnât mind the blackout very much. The only thing was that it definitely made null sec feel more solitary and lonely.
Hope you all will continue to find unique solutions to combat botting and giant isk faucets in the game. Thanks for trying something new!
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