Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread - Part Deux!

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844

Oh please, it means you didn’t rat in your whole Eve life if you say that. VNI is already shitty income per tick, let’s gather 4-5 VNIs at the same anomaly so you rat for 2 hours and get better in T2 abyssals or hisec level 4 missions solo and 80% safer. What are you saying is only feasible with capitals ratting in the same system, and with previous nerf, you can only field 3 caps or 1 super and 2 caps. It was wiser to reduce the ISK for bounty rather than nerf the spawn.

From my view, since the blackout came , i depleted all the minerals i had on my industry alt and i am not building anything right now, just pvp-ing with the alliance and small//nano fleet and PI production. No ship construction, no rigs from salvage, no modules, just researching BPCs jobs.

It’s not that i don’t want to do stuff together, but my TZ isn’t just synced with the majority of the others (i am still EUTZ but late, the rest are GMT+2) so i miss all the corp mining ops and stuff. Don’t tell me to switch corps, because no corp will fit with GMT+4.

Given the “adapt or die” mindset, i transferred a few billions to my trader alt and i do station trading.

10/10s nerfed, only crap loot 90% of the time, these at least were the engaging PVE activities which needed some brain and thinking on how to fit a ship.

ratting nerfed
vni nerfed

What should i do when i deplete all my ISK pvp-ing, buy plex with cash and sell it so i can play ? Is this the final goal ? Because i already subbed 4 accounts , 1 for 1 year, and the rest on 3 month subscription.

Or just go the umbrella logic, just undock the super and sit with perma cyno up

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845

ratting nerfed
vni nerfed

Ishtar? Gila? Domi?

As for blackout, I don’t really like it, makes the game feel empty and depressing.

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847

I’m not going to get into test communications, but the feeling of being alone is upon you when you look at your system and do not see anyone there. It feels lonely. An empty baron.

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848

Seems self-inflicted. There isn’t much reason to keep local open at all times now.

Between intel channels, corp, and alliance tabs there should be plenty of aimless chatter and ascii-dicks for anyone.

849

And CCP is again messing up the whole data by having a new skill points promotion…

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850

Which ends this week. At best it may lessen the shock-phase, which really isn’t going to impact the data that much, especially if they are going to run this for a longer time.

EDIT: I did forget the rest of seasons of skill, which makes my point moot, except if CCP are planning on keeping the blackout going for longer than that.

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851

When I logged in I saw a “get skil points for rats” and lasting till end of August, but I may have read wrong

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852

This was announced with the entire rest of the season of skills, yet it seems to be brand new information for you.

There’s going to be another free SP on login Aug 23-26, if you want to frontload your complaining about that one, too.

853

That’s CCP’s kind of an scientific data survey :slight_smile:

With regard to the logins it is of course not meaningful, but that is probably a parameter that they are not interested in the survey. Or better, they will be interested in the logins remaining stable.
They will probably collect data about the subscriptions, how many people undock, how much Pve and Pvp is done, etc.

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854

That would the ‘Something Awful’ forum. And SA is like many other large forums (reddit, for example) in that it’s got a lot of people who enjoy a lot of different games. There’s a Goon presence in pretty much every significant online game. That doesn’t mean, though, that we can just conjure up ten thousand players, which is what Goonswarm sits at now.

These days, most members of GSF aren’t SA members. Karmafleet, for example, was founded from a Reddit core (ex-Brave). PLA is Serenity ex-pats. They didn’t show up because of SA. They didn’t join the alliance because of SA. And none of it keeps functioning by magic. Organizing that many people takes work. Keeping them focused and working together takes work. We have weekly staff meetings for just the alliance directorate. Once a month, we all get together with all of the corp CEOs and directors. And that’s in addition to our normal structure of Special Interest Groups (SIGs) (Recon, GSOL, RepSwarm, LinkSwarm, Space Violence, etc), which all serve a strategic purpose, Squads like Welpsquad, Liberty, Theta, et al, which often help provide activity and content for our people, and social groups like SirenSwarm, etc.

In addition, SA Goons don’t all join Goonswarm. There’s a number of them in PL, Snuff, Groon, and throughout highsec and lowsec. Quite a lot of them don’t like Goonswarm. So the existence of the SA forums doesn’t really guarantee any kind of capacity to raise numbers.

Definitely no magic involved.

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855

Skill points give away from 24 July and 21 August. I have been in game for 3 years and never saw anything like that.

Really a shup up and swallow the blackout in Null.

Yeah people will log to grab the SP and CCP will just mask the numbers.

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856

Spotting of combat probes would only be an option if the hunter needs to launch them to find you - that is - if the site you are running is a red sig not a green anom

  • The best combo for ratting/mining safety in Null would be No Local & No green sites

Get rid of all anoms in null make them red and you would be safer than before the blackout as even a cloaked camper would have to de-cloak launch probes & find where you are to get the drop on you.

Edit: More interesting gameplay for hunters - they have to actively hunt not just shift C + point at anoms to find a target.

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857

And then that is just making Null safer again and breaking risk vs reward again.

858

It’s the best of both worlds:
Safer for the ones paying attention & the ones watching for the hunters.
Just as dangerous if the hunter is skilled or the target a run-of-the-mill AFK null farmer.

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859

How is larger reward for less risk better? It is just broken.

860

Larger reward - No - ISk/Hour would drop because the farmer would need to spend time scanning down.

Less Risk - Only if the farmer is less attentive to what is happening in system .
More risk - If the hunter knows his stuff. is patient & skilled

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861

Scanning does not take very long at all when you are used to it, it would not be long enough to drop isk per hour. As to risk if there is no difference why would you change it?

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863

Especially after the March 2019 nerf, I’d imagine.

864

There is a difference - it facilitates a range of options dependent on the skill levels of both the hunter & hunted.

If you are AFK you’re never going to see probes, if you are attentive you may or may not see the probes depending on the skill and experience of the hunter.

That’s got to be better than “reds in local run away” vs “target at green anom warp in”

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