I’ve got mixed feelings for this change. I like both worlds - I like to build stuff and I like to blow up stuff, and I love the Submarinewarfare in Wormholes. So, let’s cmompare Nullsec with Wormholes:
Wormhole:
-“Delayed” Local
-only a fixed amount of Mass can fit through a Wormhole depending on the WH-Size
-No Stargates
-Wormhole Entries collpase after a specific amount of Mass or Time and spawn somewhere else
-High Risk, High Reward Ratting, especially Class 5 & 6 Wormholes (2b+ isk/h with a Dread fittet for 6b)
-Hard to Locate
-You can’t jump into a WH with a Jump Drive
-No Supercapitals
-Moongoo
Nullsec:
-Has Stargates
-Supercapitals
-Moderate to High Risk, Low Reward Ratting (Compared to J-Space Ratting) 200m isk/h with a 20b+ Ship
-Moongoo
-Easy to reach with Cynos
-Cloaky Camping
-Enemy can bring in infinite reinforcements
I can understand that people are angry, since pretty much every Nerf in the last few years affected only
Players living in Null. Supercapital Ratting is pretty much pointless compared to Dread-Ratting in J-Space. Risking 20 Billion ISK for 200 mio isk/h compared to 6 billion ISK for 2 BILLION+ ISK/h is just a joke, especially with the broken Drifters in Null at the Moment. Also, people who are living in J-Space don’t need to worry about getting hotdroped, and cloaky camping is already a pest in Nullsec without a real Countermechanic.
I’m an Industrialist, and I do 95% of my crabbing by daytripping to empty Wormholes, so this event won’t affect me, but I can understand the anger from the Miners/Ratters.
If this Event will be permanent I fear that this great game might loose 50% of the Playerbase and will die eventually. As an Event only however I think this will be great.
Ok, just to have this said again, because you clearly didn’t get it last time you posted this exact post: The Drifters are not doing squat in null. They were active for 5 days over a 10-day period, then stopped completely. 4 days after that, the Blackout went in.
THERE IS NO UNUSUAL DRIFTER ACTIVITY IN NULLSEC RIGHT NOW AND HAS NOT BEEN FOR WEEKS.
Next: 6b ISK for 2b/h. Great! How many hours can you do that for? Cuz I can put my super out there ratting for 16h a day, every day, and get a good night’s sleep. I’ve got a cyno on it. I’ve got a few hundred guys waiting to jump on anything that attacks me (or any other ratting super in Delve).
I do not think you have the first clue what you’re talking about when it comes to the potential for making money in the current conditions.
Put super for 16 hours? And get enough sleep?
The subcap will not live even 2 hours, even by pressing D-Scan. Super unattended? No more than 3 hours. Without an umbrella, he will die in 2 hours.
Yes I totally agree null space feels empty until combat probes come on dscan, Our corp used to hold weekly moon mining ops and I lost count of the pilots from local chat that accepted Van’s fleet invite and joined us. Now my alt mines alone in a dead end with eyes on the gate. Even my own corpmates rarely join. Our gatecamps saw more traffic the first week then it died off except for the big structure bash fleets.
Fun event but as a lifestyle it sucks. o/
I already suggested this when i was pushing it a few months ago (which brought about this change).
I was explicit when i said “both wh and null should go to a 5 or 10 minute delayed timer that shows people after that period” “wh based local is bad for the game and having to spam dscan is bad game development”
I enjoy it more than probing - when im scanning something down that is.
Hitting my spacebar over and over again for no appearent reason is dumb and the sound it makes gets super annoying after the 500th time.
Shifting probing to take over the tracking down mechanic is a much better way to do it, its much less tedious, much more powerful and accurate. On top of that, it also can validate a ship class with some minor tweaks (like a -50% reduction in probe scan times, so that you can probe people down insanely fast).
This will shift inteceptors back into a forward scouting roll, but allow covert ops to do the real-in system scouting making them both viable scouts for different reasons.
And, while we’re at it, let’s keep in mind that when CCP Peligro released the Pie Chart of Shame, Goonswarm didn’t appear at all on the list of 25 alliances with the most bots.
Biggest alliance in the game. Not even in the top 25 for the number of botting asswipes who need to get banned.
Worth taking a look at. Someone reasonably competent - Edit: It’s Suitipuffs/Cutiepuffs, just sayin’ - when it comes to Eve in general takes a bit of a look at public statistics. To my tastes, this is far too little to base any significant conclusions on as it’s too short and unreliable a data set that hasn’t really gotten to grips with the “new normal” numbers after adaptation is done. However, it does hint and indicate a bit, and it’s very worth noting that the skies have - to everyone’s surprise I’m sure - not actually fallen.
Nullsec PvP numbers are up compared to the last couple of years, with highsec and lowsec being the places dropping in activity, which again shouldn’t be particularly surprising given the wardec changes and the perpetual abandonment of lowsec/FW by CCP’s attention. We still need another month’s financial reports throughout nullsec, and several weeks of “new normal” data when it comes to usage of space, PvP and subscription numbers in general, but the experiment looks like it can very easily continue on without any danger of killing the patient. Interesting.
I would spend less time being proud of that, given that your Dear Leader declared reporting botters among you was " Goonfuckin’ ", remember? That list of banned botters might just be a good indicator of who reports the bastards in their midst more than who bots the most.
It was not. Peligro was pretty clear about that: reporting botters helps, but CCP is perfectly capable of finding them regardless. And what Mittens said was to let Team Security do their job. You don’t keep a group cohesive by going on internal witch-hunts and encouraging people to go trying to get their alliance-mates banned because you don’t like that they got to an anom first.
And that’s exactly the sort of bull we’d have to deal with if he hadn’t said that. Goons are a bunch of trolls and assholes, especially to one another.
He literally used the word goonfuckin’. Reporting botters for Team Security to investigate is very much part of helping them do their job. The function exists for a reason, and wouldn’t even be there if CCP could do just as well without it. Calling that witch-hunts and prioritizing “group cohesion” over getting rid of botters says more than enough about how things work in Delve.
It will never cease to amaze me how you always talk about human nature and justifying what’s done by player organizations out in null that way and so on… and then go on to somehow pretend your particular organization, the largest one, filled with ostensibly humans and their attendant nature… but somehow they don’t use any bots. The only large scale organization in Eve to somehow not do it.
That doesn’t seem like a very reasonable stance to take, does it?
You know who else wasn’t on that chart?
Literally ever other large combat alliance in null. Not Horde, Not TEST, not NCdot, not nobody. Renters were on that list.
The only large scale organization in EVE to somehow not do it? Screw that noise. Nobody who expects people to actually fleet up and get their hands dirty made the list. So nice narrative, but your holier-than-thou nonsense don’t fit the data.
