Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

It is easily possible to do the same and be safe. Form a group of people to play with that can reliably grant you the intel you need. In turn, pay them a bit to cover your ass. Be a social player and partake in voice comms.

Don’t be a pleb. People like you, that dock up unless 100% safe, is aids to EVE.

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ppl r not gnna spend 5 hours sitting on gates for inthel its stuipid to think they will

You selfish little … you.

1st the super umbrella arrives via cyno. Local will not stop that, unless you can’t even open cyno and ask for help
2nd you are ok with having 100 super umbrella but can’t fight back a small romming gang ?

I think this change is not enoght, more nerf is needed. Untill players like you end up, where they belong in HS

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There are, relatively speaking, few of us wormholers. I had to dip out due to time commitments, but it isn’t a primary area for people to play. As a result of the space, a lot of the players are a lot more skilled which gives rise to this hate of wormholers by plebs.

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and try to fight off 200 bomber-bar fleet you haven’t seen coming coz oh no no local and oh ■■■■ they are cloaked

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You and your utter stupidity is aids to everyone around you.

Intel from people is pointless, people can’t give reliable intel, they take breaks, only bots do.
Covering ass is pointless because there is no way to defend from a gank other than completely losing out on any reward (and still not being able to defend).

Don’t be an idiot. People like you who fail to see when the game is being killed, is aids.

The reason is that the content availability is different and the search a entrance/exit stuff is not for everyone. - At least this is my reason.

Bye bye donal Equilenne

I will not miss you
:kissing_heart:

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Just for context I do not pve but I do understand the importance of pve people in the game. You do realize that pipe systems exist and just because you have no local does not mean that a bot can not sit on a gate and ping all targets not in coalition to the system effectively negating this arguing point that it will prevent bots from intel networks or pveing.

Removal of local is yet to be seen as to whether it will be a net positive or negative for the game so saying this is just conjecture. Players that have been active rating and mining already make more than bots do typically. I think you are being pretty disingenuous as to the fact that human beings are human beings and permanent loss does not go over well with most human beings. I am saying this because it is relevant to people that do not pvp and mostly just pve. I am not saying that the game needs to be safe in null for them to play but to say that it is not going to be a net negative to targets in space you are living in a pie in the sky image of what this has for the future. I am not doom and glooming this I am just stating a reality that we as pvpers are going to have to deal with, because people that are risk averse with local sure as hell are not going to be less risk averse without local. This could lead people that never thought they would leave eve to leave it out of fear for their stuff which has been a long standing problem with the eve player base. But I digress as all of that would be conjecture and fear stoking which I am not trying to do here.

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Yes and?

Instead you like to fly in space where hostiles come in and you instantly can get a big super umbrella to cover your arse because you’re too incompetent to deal with ■■■■ yourself? This game is a sandbox where your actions have consequences. Current affairs are way too safe in removing the risks.

As has been said for years: You consent to PVP the second you undock.

Grow up, adapt and become better.

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Whatever helps you sleep at night Nullbear.

Thanks botter, good riddance

Will probably happen at the same time as they remove asset safety from 0,0 then :wink:

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There is no hate, only nuisance because wormholers are protected by the safety of their hole, where those chickens hole up in fear and get rollers out in case anything responds to them.

Coming out to null is too safe for them, they just keep running if you respond, and keep being a nuisance if you don’t, making responding to them pointless, you just have to wait them out, as there’s only risk and no reward undocking, and no way to get them in their hidey-hole.

If you see 200 bomber bar in the local today, you are already tackled :), or docked and typing bul… in the forums
You point ?

Oh small spoiler as developer: Bots could handle d-scan/overview detection very fast so your main ratting/mining/strat systems will be still mostly save. But the surrounding space makes a lot more fun.
The pvpler breaking more ships -> more to do for Industrials.

Our point, which you somehow, probably due to terminal stupidity, is unable to see, is that you can see their hunters on intel, and catch or avoid them.
Now try that without intel, where they can drop on you any moment for free, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Might as well just send them all your ISK.

Uhm. I mean we’re not just gonna take a big null defense fleet on with our smaller numbers. Can’t blame a guy for not wanting to go 6v30. Frankly if anyones a coward it’s the guy with a big fleet calling the smaller evading fleet a coward.

People can take breaks. That is where YOU work as a TEAM to get that intel reliable.
Just how I need to work with a team to shoot your face in many situations.

Covering ass is pointless because there is no way to defend from a gank other than completely losing out on any reward (and still not being able to defend).

Utter ■■■■■■■■. It is very easy, if you’re not an isolationist, to defend against many ganks. It is the big fleets that you can be caught by, but most ganks are small groups and very defensible. Change from solo-ratting to team ratting. Adapt to work together and thus achieve better safety.

You’re camped? Get friends to run with you and make it a hard target to gank.
You keep seeing people try to kill you? Adjust your fit to fight back rather than to min-max income and then cry that you can get killed.

EVE has never been about full safety. It has never been about you being able to rat in peace without ANY risk. Even in High-sec, you’ll get risks that you need to keep in mind. But no, you’re heading down to nullsec to get more money and yet the risk should be lower than HS?

Don’t be an idiot. People like you who fail to see when the game is being killed, is aids.

This is exactly why you’re aids to this game. You propagate a space that needs to be safe as hell. I am all for local being gone, and then raising reward potential for you in that space depending on the amount of people in a region and the activity. But you actively contribute to the rot that affects EVE.

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no Local, does not mean no INTEL

or maybe for the users of https://www.evedustry.com/near/ it DOES :slight_smile: