And just when CODE. was getting their mining operations going in V-X0KM
What is the point of Black Desert? Its nothing like EVE, not even close. Even WoW is more hardcore than that pile of elven â â â â
Let me blow up your citadel. Itâll become quite fuckinâ clear then.
Or sit on a gate and realize that gates will never move, so you can just semi AFK your eyes and use your ears.
Also, I knew I remembered that name somewhere. One of the reasons I left null, after you and a mate cried a bloody fân river after PL or AAA or some â â â â came and ganked the â â â â out of you, because you were being lazy AF, then had the gumption to rage and whine about it in intel. I recall 'cause I was on grid, hollered about it in local when they were 2 systems out⌠you and duder werenât on comms or in fleet.
Maybe I should thank you and your buddy for the push I needed to leave lazy-space and go to the wormholes. Should also thank you for the memory so I could relay just the kind of players that end up dead and why its stupid when people whine about how badly it affects you⌠when if you played smarter youâd not have any real negatives from the loss of local.
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well I have no Idea who you are at all so i guess we know how important you were and still are
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Sigh. Nullsec will still be safe. Your structures arenât going anywhere, unless you donât defend them. Fleets arenât going anywhere, unless you donât join them. Itâll just mean your intel will be from people who actively play the game instead of bots. DEAL WITH IT.
Also, good damned luck getting any money back⌠guess since youâre so lazy, you havenât bothered to read the EULA (even cursory skim)âŚ
Nothing prevents you from undocking. Or pressing the V key.
Pretty sure CCP duders are laughing their asses off with all this salt. They could preserve a lot of â â â â with all the salt this has generated 
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does red frog can handle this much salt to be transported?
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So many people flipping the f out. Canât we just see how it goes? It might be awesome, It might suck. We donât know, which is why CCP is trying it out for a month. I admire the boldness of this + the drifter attacks. Itâs shaking up the game at the very least. Lets just see how it goes for gods sake. No need to unsub your 12 accounts yet.
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Thought it was black frog for nullspace?
This is⌠potentially a bad move, potentially a not-bad move. I canât call it a âgoodâ move either way.
At the absolute least, this shuts down large portions of nullsec PVE gameplay. Mining (safely) will be nearly impossible without a large guard fleet on standby. Ratting will need to be done in full PVP kit, in ships adroit enough to run away at the first sign of an inty on D-scan. Problems with resource flow on both those points will hit highsec and lowsec markets in the gut, particularly the minerals side of things. The price of Faction, DS, and Officer mods will skyrocket (nevermind that Officer mods are already ridiculous) due to reduced availability.
OOG Tools that rely on copying lists of names from chat windows will not work anymore. Merely grabbing a character name to link in chat will take a minimum of 3 clicks (and some quick reflexes) rather than just one.
Itâs a huge boon to roaming fleets and hunters, though. Assuming people are still out doing PVE content, (given the significant risk imposed by an empty local chat) they will have as much warning to your presence as you have to theirs, rather than knowing to scatter as soon as your name shows up in the user list. Absolutely massive boon to covops droppers, who can now spike a system with absolutely no warning until the moment they strike. Doesnât do much for cloaky camping. though. New MO will simply be to assume there is a camper in local whether or not there actually is.
I get that this is probably part of the Drifters event. It may be a common (temporary) thing going forward in Invaded systems, or become permanent. I really hope there will be counterplay introduced at some point, eg a fueled structure service that reinstates âstandardâ local features. (Give it a small delay for capsuleers to âreverse engineerâ the gate comms systems theyâve always been able to rely on and now no longer can. Make it a minigame or whatever, even. Dropped loot pieces or something.) Make it cheap enough that people will actually do it, but expensive enough to centralize, leaving less-trafficked systems between âsettledâ pockets of null âblindâ.
Gonna be a right mess either way, though.
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Bots arent exclusive to nullsec.
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Iâve played all sec areas of the game including a few years in WH space. The lack of immediate local is like going blind and tunes the senses. In this case D-Scan and probes are your substitute eyes supplemented by the already extensive intel networks that null blocs already have.
This is going to be brilliant if you enjoy pvp, espionage or mining in groups amongst other things.
Iâm currently a Goon and still think this a great change to the game.
The door swings both ways, you should never undock not expecting pvp.
Iâm not sure if many people realise that Goons and most other null blocs have significant recon and pathfinder organisations that help to counter hostile incursions and ultimately provide intel so we can go on the offensive. Delve is used to bombers bar and dread bombs rocking up unexpectedly.
Donât forget that Goons have a very effective support and defence network to look after the line member and will continue to support and react with defence fleets at the drop of a cyno.
I for one welcome this change and I encourage others to adapt to it in order for them to enjoy the game as I do.
These are indeed interesting times.
Fly dangerousâŚ
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People quitting Eve or threatening to quit at every change are 1st class ***holesâŚ
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Thatâs not true though is it.
Nobody ever claimed otherwise, so whatâs your point?
I agree with the statement though I tend to lean heard towards no local being better for the game, since Iâve experienced it.
Mining safely will likely be even easier without local because hunters wonât immediately know that there is content in the system. Ratting fits for you wonât change, any more than they have for me. The only real change will be that youâll post eyes up on gates and then warp off when people enter system. Same thing I do. Prices might increase due to lack of supply, but it wonât be because of players that actually play the game causing the prices to jump, it will be the bots and RMT dickwads that have inflated the market because right now theyâre a good chunk of the supply.
Frankly, OOG tools like that needed to â â â â off anyways. NEAR2 and similar ilk only bred in even more complacency, and increased the wallets of the trillionaires in the game while they AFK mine with 20+ accounts in rorquals.
Believe it or not, while it will be a huge boon for hunters because lazy players will become easier content, for the active, intelligent player it will be harder to catch them. As soon as a pilot jumps the gate, your eyes will hear him and let you know someone is coming, along with name/corp, someone will be a good intel guy and stalk his killboards and corp, etc. Just like I do. If Iâm in range of the gate/hole and krabbing, I am more diligent and quicker to GTFO of grid. If Iâm sloppy, I die. that is how the game is supposed to be, and null is the exact opposite of what it should be, and a lot of that comes from local.
Cloaky ships will have to jump the gate and you have to decloak and recloak with module, so your scout will see him, and youâll still have plenty of time to get safe. If he safelogs, you will see him on dscan when heâs logging in.
And really, I hope that local just plain dies. CCP shouldnât reward lazy players, and punish active players.
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If thatâs the case then you donât actually need Local chat anyway.
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The reality is though ⌠you have had a hard week ⌠you want to relax ⌠you come online to eve ⌠you corp puts you on gate duty day after day ! you so nothing in eve and only fly cheap ships⌠weres is the fun in that?
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bad. very bad. eve online RIP
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Ever hear of rotating shifts?
Also nothing is stopping you from piloting expensive ships.
because you cant rat or mine ( many do this solo ) you cant afford to lose your stuff.