LMFAO!
and taking up valuable growing room for new and upcomming corps/alliances?
taking up three regions as some sort of buffer zone for some sort of deluded strategy makes no sense to me either and groups should not be able to hold that much space with minimal effort.
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If this continues long-term, itās not difficult at all to see how it plays out. Ratting and mining gets more dangerous for small groups, including anyone trying to break into nullsec[1]. The people who take proper precautions, will be more or less fine[2]. Over time, the larger groups will continue to make adjustments and refine their defensive strategiesāand, being able to put a few hundred people on the problem, those refinements wonāt take long to be optimized. As they do, the hunters coming in will have less and less impact. They will, as they have every other time, get frustrated, and annoyed, and probably close to 75% of the people in here crowing about how great this change is will start to rant about how this change was just CCP giving Goons what we wanted again. Just like they have, every other time[3]. And theyāll hunt where they can get juicy kills with relative easeā¦ just like most of them do now.
The result: the gulf between the larger, more organized groups and the independents and small groups will continue to widen at an accelerating rate. A fair chunk of the ālittle guysā will get frustrated at being farmed and unable to make decent money. Some will go to j-space. Some will quit. Many will go to the big blocs, for the support and opportunity to make a profit that will exist there.
And none of that is at all difficult to predict.
- Like the guys up in Tribute right now. 2 or 3 different constellations, each taken by relatively small, newish groups who donāt have a lot of experience taking and securing sovā¦ with a convenient route in from empire in Taisyā¦ anouther through Pure Blind (which is basically just a 3-pipeline region), and another from Vale. Getting in there to hunt their money-makers will be easy.
- Those precautions include things like making their money in slightly hardened, but ultimately disposable ships like Myrmidons (which, after the VNI nerf, will be the better choice ) and Procurers until they can upgrade to supercapitals, and living under one of the major supercapital umbrellas so that when they do make that step up, theyāll be reasonably well-protected.
- Jump Fatigue was supposed to be terrible for us, remember? Now we can gate caps wherever. Aegis sov, tooā¦ but now ADMs make our space harder to take. Cits were supposed to give the little guys an edge, cuz they could drop stations whereverā¦ but now if you donāt own a Keepstar, you canāt reasonably own supercapitals, where you used to only need a nice, nondescript large POS.
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For those outside of the EU and NA 4.5 seconds is about the existing delay in localā¦
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I just donāt see half these Corps actually diverting funds to pay pilots for the jobs of protection , it will hit there Corp wallets hard, I remember 7 or 8 years ago I got paid for scouting scanning and the like but in the current form of the game seems no one wishes to pay out so I am left to make income in the other ways possible, I feel yes they made things to damn easy with anoms as they are , making the AFK PVE all the easier, you should have to scan them down .
I agree with most of what you say, but I feel it will not spur any massive influx of PVP pilots
at first yeah, there will be some that will still krab, but not for long when they start loosing more than they make they will leave too. Then there will be only a few and far inbetween. Its like our seas, we overfish them and there are no fish, and fishermen complain
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Diverting funds to pay for protection?
We have trouble keeping people from jumping their titans and supers in to go after hunters, when weāre trying to set bait.
People want to use their toys. They want to drop a dozen titans on some poor bastard in a lone bomber, like the hand of god . We donāt have to pay them.
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If this is the case, then they are krabbing wrong. It only takes like 2 hours for a VNI to pay itself back, and the rest of the ticks you make a just profits on top.
You seem to think that just because of Blackout, there will be constant roaming small gangs and gankers, but youāre failing to understand the big picture. There will still be more than enough hours in a day when people arenāt roaming or ganking because of work, jobs, school and classes, errands, general life, etc. Given how easy it is to krab during those times (for example, the VNI is almost entirely AFK) there are still plenty of opportunities to krab.
People like you, who are so scared of a small change and crying about the end of the world need to pull your head out of your tiny little krabbing bubbles and realize that the game doesnāt revolve around your little world. 
EVE will be fine, people will adapt. Everyone crying and threatening to quit will realize itās not that bad. Or they will, and EVE loses nothing of value.
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After the nerf, use a Myrmidon. Itās profitable after 40 minutes, and the VNI wonāt do so great anymore.
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Wonāt be able to play? Iāve had my computer break on me too and had to put off repairs too. I feel ya bud.
Unless your saying a short testing period of blackout is preventing you from playing in which case your whiny and canāt adapt to problems or canāt survive with a small bit of risk.
As I said some Corps wont have the manpower , I made a reference to the past, if your group has the resources to Drop such forces on a bomber kudos to them , but lets stay on topic for the chat. How do you feel honestly that killing local will make it all better. It really is all speculation as to what could and may happen.
No one brings up the fact that this goo shortage that can cause this supposed blackout could be fed by willing corps to prevent shortages why not make a delivery system to Concord and keep it open .
If I Corp hold true sov over a area then it makes sense that there local gates monitor traffic , why not let the people who hold Sov over them be able to shut them off if defense called for it. There are so many holes on both sides of this debate.
It all comes down to this Opinions are like Aāholes in eve everybody has one but few care about each others.
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Well, the āgoo shortageā youāre talking about is Quantum-Entangled Helium-4. Which apparently has to be Entangled, and then shipped out to the CONCORD Fluid Router hubs. It works because the He-4 itās entangled with is in another part of space. So it would all have to get to Yulai first, then get sent back out.
As for how I feel honestly that killing local will make it all better? I donāt, particularly. I donāt particularly think itāll make it all worse, either. I think this is an attempt to shake things up some, and it will, but then theyāll settle down into the same familiar patterns of human nature that they always do: the sheep will bleat, then huddle together and realize that as long as they stick with the herd, theyāre probably ok. The wolves will drool and kill happily for a little while, but then theyāll realize that the sheep are all just clustered tight into the herd, and start howling in frustration again. And the wolfhounds will tear up any wolves they can catch, until the wolves learn to stay away or stay elusive, all over again.
And that pattern will play out on every change that impacts large groups. Just like it already has. Thatās not speculation. Thatās the inevitable repetition of human nature.
Edit: and thatās not āevery change that impacts large groups in EVEā. Thatās āevery change that impacts large groupsā. Online, offline, the span of human history follows that pattern.
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Again I can concur with most of the above statement, but I think the numbers returning to Hi Sec will be amusing , and then the extremist numbers resulting in lost real income for the game designers. will be parts of this unknown situation.
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Think over the name: local chat
Why does chat become a stranger recognition engine?
It seems to me that people living in 0.0, frankly became arrogant, you have a JB (gate), and you can jump back and forth without a cool down, you can put a citadel near the gate to make the passage safe and you still complain ā¦ ā¦
can make for you 100% compensation on the ship and modules?
If you are so afraid of interacting with other players and losing the ship, move to live in Hisec?
Large alliances, such as Goonswarm, have a ācapital shipās umbrellaā. But for some reason, the representatives of this alliance cry most of all on this forum.
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ftfy xD
Imho people shouldnt need or feel the need to do such and lets be honest here, when that umbrella says jump; those little fellas jump. So are they really living free of a major alliance, no; they are subject to one probably even pay rentā¦
[fatigue] It was, you all moaned, it got changed to be less oppressiveā¦ jumpig caps through gates is time consuming so i have no qualms or issues with that; it can also come at risk. Personally id have stuck with the original fatigue changes but perhaps adjusted ranges, that way caps become something you use when you need to - not as a be all and end all.
[ADMās] I dont think THAT was supposed to make it easier or herder, entosis mechanics however well they were working until again, some blocs moaned about having to form for every sov timer just to fix itā¦ NOW fozziesov is a bit of an issue because its not oing the job that was intended; again personally id have told the groups moaning to suck it up and keep less space - goons did exactly that, many other alliances died trying to keep hold of unused spaceā¦
Citadels well, the idea holds well but implementation and use has seen a ton of issues which should have received minor tweaks along the way but these sorts of things rareley happen then 3 or 4 years down the line we just see a blanket nerf.
I cba to edit to fix spelling and such xD
yeah was once of my toughts tooā¦ ccp likes thoose post bout how badass eve is About traitors liars and big looses.
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Its not the little fisherman that are overfishing, in fact the little guys are usually more responsible about thee things; tbvh in this analogy that we are using your the one āoverfishingā by expecting to be safe all the time, by expecting the game to operate the way you want it too to protect your wealth - you do not look at the environmental factors, or what your putting back into the game; you even disregard all the pvpers opinions because somehow, somewhere in your tiny little mind they do not actually do any pveā¦
You could not be more wrong if a fish suddenly grew legs and smacked you in the face with its vagine.
mh lil insight in your sexual favors and dreams?
they keep trying to use the mechanic to drive free advert in order to try and keep drawing new players into the gameā¦to increase profits.
it is an ok plan but these events that grab the game world cannot be produced on commandā¦and engineering such conflicts is badā¦recall the techneshium changeā¦that was totally engineered by ccp from my viewpoint.
in order to increase profits properly for a Mature game like eve then owners must invest in game infrastructure IE more space in order to get and KEEP new players.
instead of what they keep trying to create now a giant bloodbath arena gameā¦and new players wont stay to be whipping postsā¦and no matter how much people tell them they still will not listen even now.
also where the in the abyss of eve is this years alliance tourney ??? that is like one of their main advtertizment draws they haveā¦and people expect to be able to watch it.
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Those little fellas arenāt living under any of the umbrellas. After we glassed Tribute, we left, and Init left. PanFam ran to Malpais. DeadCoās up in Branch and Dek, and might hold on to parts of Tenal.
And no, theyāre not paying rent.
Fatigue was fundamentally broken as it originally came out. It was, at release, possible to rack up 1,000 years of red timer by traveling from DO6H to 1-SMEB with minimum-wait jumps.
1,000 years. Exponential crap gets big suddenly.
What Fatigue was intended to do, as per Greyscale, was prevent the blocs from bouncing supercapitals across New Eden to drop on every fight they could find. Thatās not what a huge number of players thought it would do.
ADMs were, in fact, supposed to make it harder to hold lots of sov. Theyāre the primary mechanic shrinking footprints: if you want your space to be defensible, you need to live in it. And a whole lot of people were crowing about how forcing the blocs into smaller pockets would kill us. Instead, itās just set us up to defend our pocket really well.
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