Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

[Senor_Retardo]

@VIadmax

can I have ur stuff please?

Why the pathetic begging?

[Bronson_Hughes]

I promised that I wouldn’t post in this thread, but Goddamn, that’s the single best EvE GIF I’ve ever seen.

Thank you.

[bucegi]

WTF you just said there??

[Kendarr]

CCP, I have played eve since 2006 and this is the greatest thing you have done to this game. Good on you for shaking up things in a 16 year old game. Please keep the changes coming. Everyone that is rage quitting will be back.

[Lugburz]

@Renegade_Void

Wormhole:

-“Delayed” Local
-only a fixed amount of Mass can fit through a Wormhole depending on the WH-Size
-No Stargates
-Wormhole Entries collpase after a specific amount of Mass or Time and spawn somewhere else
-High Risk, High Reward Ratting, especially Class 5 & 6 Wormholes (2b+ isk/h with a Dread fittet for 6b)
-Hard to Locate
-You can’t jump into a WH with a Jump Drive
-No Supercapitals
-Moongoo

You think wormholes have moon goo? i mean the same as null?

@Renegade_Void

Nullsec:

-Has Stargates
-Supercapitals
-Moderate to High Risk, Low Reward Ratting (Compared to J-Space Ratting) 200m isk/h with a 20b+ Ship
-Moongoo
-Easy to reach with Cynos
-Cloaky Camping
-Enemy can bring in infinite reinforcements

Missed megablocs, titans, blops, 600mil an hour if mining the right moon of which there are plenty & ratting 120/150mil an hour with just a carrier; , ded and escalations which can pay 800mil in an hour with a 1 bil isk fit ship,In npc null you even have missions and the burners are very lucrative. also at the moment you can see people coming from many many jumps away.
Also pretty sure if sh#t ws ‘‘low reward’’ many wouldn’t bother doing it.

You do play the game right?
Or more than likely just another nullbear trying to make it look like your getting the rough end of the stick?

[bucegi]

I also hope it will be permanent dumbo, it will help EvE get the well deserved demise. EvE has not been Eve for a long time now.

[Anaro_Goldrock]

woohoo, time to get back into EVE

[DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf]

And you fail again… those movements are not predictable at all because unless you have FTL sensors, hint: no EVE faction does, you don’t have a accurate idea what’s between one star and the other, if a stellar-level black hole passes by in the space between the two stars say hello to your predictions going to hell in a handbasket and there’s many other things of a disruptive nature.

To put it bluntly: Stop talking, you’re burying yourself deeper as you don’t have a handle on the lore or the actual science of astronomy as you tried to claim.

[Dravick_Afterthought]

@Renegade_Void

I fear that this great game might loose 50% of the Playerbase

Really ? Is Null-sec really home to 50% of the players (assuming they all leave) ? I thought High-sec had the majority of Eve players ?

[Dravick_Afterthought]

@Lugburz

You think wormholes have moon goo? i mean the same as null?

I don’t know the full range of moon-goo in Null, but I’ve certainly mined Mercoxit in my corp’s C3.

[Ms_Steak]

@Renegade_Void

Supercapital Ratting is pretty much pointless compared to Dread-Ratting in J-Space. Risking 20 Billion ISK for 200 mio isk/h compared to 6 billion ISK for 2 BILLION+ ISK/h is just a joke

this is a very misrepresented information. Solo dread farms about 700mil/hour with very limited number of anoms available and this Bustard | Holland Darknight | Killmail | zKillboard can also always happen. While SC ratting is a stable income and is very hard to deal with under umbrella.

[Arrendis]

@SeerinDarkness

also where the in the abyss of eve is this years alliance tourney ??? that is like one of their main advtertizment draws they have…and people expect to be able to watch it.

Alliance Tournament XVII – An Update! | EVE Online

There isn’t one.

@Ms_Steak

Now if only there was a complimentary/conflicting mechanic to entice large groups of players to expand…

You don’t want us to do that. Before the ADMs, 2 groups literally owned all of the map. We don’t want to go back to that.

@Ms_Steak

isnt this an oxymoron?

Not even close. He’s saying ‘even I can tell…’ Whether he’s right or not is up for debate, but not an oxymoron.

@Lugburz

Goons, you mean goons as basically most of the other ‘blocs’ of the time are dead now.

Nope. PanFam’s not dead. GotG/DeadCo’s not dead (other than the name). Same w/TEST. TRI’s still out there, even if they’ve changed coalition names more times than I’ve changed socks. So’s w/the RUS bloc.

@Lugburz

except for many of us they are not, they are clunky, slow and tbvh a royal pita to own

I find them pretty boring, but they still need their support ships.

@Lugburz

In my twelve years of playing i can honestly say nullsec has never been so dull and stagnant with ‘‘diminished pleasure’’ to many many players.

Nah. Things were a lot more stagnant in 2014, right after the Halloween War.

@DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf

then you’re flat out saying WH space and Abyssal space isn’t just in another galaxy but in another galactic cluster.

For the record… they might be.

@Litsea_Reticulata

the super umbrella every large null security block has these days.

There are 6 umbrellas: Delve, Fountain, Branch, Esoteria, Malpais, and Detorid.

@Lugburz

Missed megablocs

They also missed ‘can do that ratting for 16+h a day if you want, without having to wait 3-8 days for your combat sites to respawn’.

[Makshima_Shogo]

@DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf

To put it bluntly: Stop talking, you’re burying yourself deeper as you don’t have a handle on the lore or the actual science of astronomy as you tried to claim.

Again? you do realize I’m a different guy xD? I claim? I’ve claimed nothing.

I think your going senile, should get that checked, also its fantacy tech we don’t know its limitations.
Please point me to the source that shows your claims.

[Ms_Steak]

@Arrendis

You don’t want us to do that. Before the ADMs, 2 groups literally owned all of the map. We don’t want to go back to that.

Exactly: before the ADMs. More territory to sustain lots of players due to depletion will also mean less efficient Supercap umbrella (at least NS Entity will have to spread it thinner).

[RadioStar]

If they keep it that way I’ll be unsubscribing my 4 accounts. I knew this day would come eventually.

[Arrendis]

@Ms_Steak

More territory to sustain lots of players due to depletion will also mean less efficient Supercap umbrella

No, it really won’t. It’ll just mean we go locust, and use the supercap umbrella itself to roam through whole regions, consuming them as we go.

Keep in mind, we’re already doing that every 2 weeks w/Locust Fleets in Querious, Fountain, and Period Basis. We discussed doing it in Tribute, too, but didn’t want to be bothered.

[Makshima_Shogo]

Out of interest what is your goal in eve? If something so small like removing local makes you give up.

[Skilled_Bitch_Midumulf]

maybee just have an hour of fun after a day full of work? in this case i would also say ■■■■ of cause that hour of fun would whent into another of work.

[Makshima_Shogo]

One could argue that ratting is not really fun it is only a means to gain isk in order to have fun, and having no local will make things more dangerous in which a higher chance of something out of the ordinary could happen. (exciting/fun)

[Arrendis]

@Makshima_Shogo

One could argue that ratting is not really fun it is only a means to gain isk in order to have fun, and having no local will make things more dangerous in which a higher chance of something out of the ordinary could happen. (exciting/fun)

One could also argue that for people whose idea of ‘fun’ is pursuing strategic objectives in large-scale warfare, ratting and mining is a necessary evil—laying in materiel/resources for those wars—and being interrupted by a bunch of pissant jerks who aren’t looking at any bigger picture, but only out there for instant gratification, may be ‘exciting’, but it sure as hell won’t be ‘fun’. Kind of like how tripping and falling down the stairs is exciting, but not fun.