Sure but the groups that look at the bigger picture would have defense fleets on the stand by ready to counter strike.
Wam you have 2 forces pvp’ing, I would call that fun.
The problem with eve at the moment is that you could have a small strike group roaming around enemy space looking for a fight, but the bigger side (on the defence) could just completely ignore them and wait for them to leave.
Becuase everything is based around timer’s and huge fleet’s.
Having no local could be the trigger that sparks smaller engagement’s and one of the great part’s of eve are those smaller engagement’s.
Huge fights are not the same thing as ganking ratters and miners. I take ships to those fights myself. I enjoy the fights. I die horribly sometimes. I like to replace those losses. SRP covers most of that but sometimes I don’t break even. If i can’t replace them I won’t play. This isn’t about fear, this is about common sense because all we’re going to get is more cloaky camper ■■■■■■■■ from ‘leet pvpers’ that will make it impossible to make any isk, so people won’t undock and will just unsubscribe.
There’s a line between “hurrr if you’re not ready to lose it, don’t fly it” and making the game literally unplayable for any activity besides pvp.
inb4 go to highsec - I like a game to be reasonably fun if I want to play it. And like you said, people die in highsec too. What next, CCP get rid of concord and players like you start spewing ■■■■ about how you’re not supposed to able to make any isk anywhere?
If my house was a fortress where I could respawn endlessly and the whole point of my fortress was so that I could have fun pvping then yes :] I would call that fun.
Eve is a game not real life.
Null sec isn’t meant to be a cozy safe haven.
Even getting your ass kicked can be fun, it’s all perspective.
This makes a lot of assumptions, and contradicts the question you’re claiming to answer with ‘yes’.
Ratters and miners may have a bunch of isk, but it’s not ‘endless’. And no, the whole point of holding that space isn’t so someone can come in and kick you in the balls whenever they’re bored and feel like being a douchebag. As for the contradiction: if you’re having fun, then you’re not addressing the ‘only one of us is having fun’ part of the question, now are you?
Don’t get me wrong: I’m not suggesting null should be safe. I’m not suggesting PvP in EVE should be 100% consentual. But when your game play style is literally to interrupt someone else’s and make them do something they don’t want to do in ways they don’t want to do it, don’t go trying to justify it by claiming you’re making it more ‘fun’ for them. Because that’s just being dishonest.
Highsec has the most active characters, but that’s not a reliable indicator for what security level a player identifies with - pretty much every player who identifies as a null-sec, WH, and low-sec player is going to have characters they use in highsec (market alts, out of corp JF pilots, etc.), while the same isn’t true for players who identify as “highsec players”. Not really a position on the issue, just a fact to be aware of when considering it.
All that aside, I doubt the threatened unsubs are going to materialize. Most people will piss themselves for a little bit and then realize it’s still entirely possible to krab. Only the whiniest of nullbears are gonna pack it in over this.
You’re also making the assumption that the agressing side is leagues stronger than the defending side, if they are at equal strength that’s when things start to get exciting.
According to numbers Jin’taan was authorized to give out this spring, 75% of players (not characters) never leave highsec. This would, obviously, include a lot of the people who make it to ‘first login’ and never return, but CCP seems pretty comfortable with their claims that the majority of the playerbase is in highsec.
No I’m not. At no point have I said anything about the relative strengths of the two sides. I’ve talked about what you’re coming in there to do, and whether or not what you’re looking for lines up with what the guys living there are looking for. Nothing more. So don’t go trying to weasel around that issue.
Which is pvp yea that’s what roamers are there for, but what else could those roamer’s do to provoke a response fleet other that attack the ratter’s.
Does pvp not interest null blocs at all? Is it all empire building? I doubt it, the ratters should dock up their ratting ships undock in pvp ships and defend their land.
The phrasing Jin uses there is ‘70% or so of the game’s population plays in hisec’. As the person who edited that article, and worked with Jin in the writing of it, I can tell you that the numbers he’s referring to is players, not characters, not accounts, and ‘plays’ is basically ‘never leaves’. But I’ll see if I can get him to nail that down more clearly.
The members who are interested in the sort of PvP you’re doing… are also out there doing it. Every bloc’s got those groups. For us, it’s SIGs like Black Ops, Bomberwaffe, NGSA, Reavers, Liberty, Space Violence, etc. You know what they’re not doing?
Sitting home ratting and mining.
Well now they won’t know they should go get their combat ships, will they?
