Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

No. Its obviously the safest place, therefore its the least safest…

Line up the anomalies by distance. If there’s a sanctum 12 AU away and you see a Kronos at 13 au scan range but not 11, makes it pretty easy to figure out where they are.

Stuck in siege, pointed by rats, force by optimal range to stay at near-zero to deal effective damage.

If I had 31337 photo shop skills I’d take a music video of “Frank Sinatra’s Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head” impose the shape of Delve over the umbrella and replace the raindrops with the covert cyno icon.

Low security gate guns are laughable. They’d be more annoying if they just did a random e-war on people.

You spelled “Impossible” as “Much easier”. Watch your grammar.

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So nothing of a value was lost since carebears never undock to pvp anyway.

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You just described a ganktard who feels entitled to a free kill because he did unbelievable pains of training cyno 5, and now owns every subcap in nullsec with this substitute for skill.

Nullsec must not be safe for ganktards, at least as much as it was unsafe for me with local. Without local, ganktard risk is removed and this is unacceptable.

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It’s fine that you suck at living while doing PvE but there are thousands of us who are much better at it. No local goes a long way to slowing down hunters just enough where they absolutely will have a noticeably harder time catching attentive players. It’s ok if you don’t agree cause your wrong. Cause again, there are thousands of players who for the last decade have been proving it via wormholes.

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With level of proficiency in pve you’ve been demonstrating in this thread, this assumption is natural.

So come and drive us out! Why haven’t you done this yet, you risk-averse chicken? If you did any pve ever you’d knew that no matter what player does, you’ll have to do it in a pve ship no matter what, and it’s not like a pvp ship stands a chance against covert hotdrop either.
And even with that, you still need a crutch that removes all risk to do anything to a pure pve player? You’re a failure of this game then I guess.

It’s fine that you suck at ganking so hard you can only do it without any risk involved, but there are thousands of us who are much better at it.

How does it slow chickens already logged off in a stealth bomber?
How does it slow people who check dotlan or in-game map and know exactly where to burn?
How does it feel to live being such a clueless baddie?

You are very badly wrong and it’s sad you are not intellectually equipped to see how bad it is.

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Us? who is us, your characture has no substance it doesn’t even show up on Zkill it is only a forum alt.

If I were a botter, I’d slap intel bot with 100% 23/7 attention on that gate and call it a day.
It’s because I do not bot is why I complain - and idiots like you almost make it sound like “you have to bot or urbad lol”.

Oh, according to your lowsec ego you can drive anyone out of nullsec easily. Pick a region and show us!

See now your problem is your dumb assumption that all pvpers know literally everything about every system they go to when in reality they’ll now have to scout out the system beforehand for a decent count of undocked ships then warp to structures to make sure there’s no docked defense fleet in system AND nearby systems. Then after that huge task they have to pick targets. Of course there’s no local so they’ll have to actually get on grid if they’re gonna look at zkill to see if it’s probably bait or not after which they’ll either proceed or bail. At each and every step of that process you as the potential target can easily notice them and escape or set up a cloaky camp near your ship. Especially when they uncloak coming in through the gate. You don’t even begin to consider the ammount of prep work that’ll be involved for a covert hunter group to work “safely”. It’s so very easy if your paying proper attention and coordinating with allies to deal with covert ops ships. I’d even say it’s easy to deal with them when you know they’re hiding around. YOU. JUST. SUCK.

Because in-game map and dotlan are a thing, so is zkill, they know literally everything about every system they go to, unless they are below 40 IQ like you and can’t read free intel given to them.

The rest of the post is based on this completely wrong assumption of everyone being as stupid as you are, and therefore irrelevant.

“mah free ganks must be 100% safe or I won’t do it!”
man, what a chicken, baits are obvious, but you STILL need to check? Stupid and cowardly, typical ganktard.

Cyno is lit, idiots pile in bombers and alpha you.
There is no way to deal with it in current meta.

What is your “dealing with it” implies, noticing you on the gate is “dealing with it”? That’s not dealing with it, that’s just knowing some risk-averse chickens are around, which is default assumption under blackout anyway. What do I do then? Set up an obvious bait and sit on it 23/7 waiting while they wake up and muster a bit of courage? They’ll never have any - hence no way to “deal with it” exists.
Of course you like to pretend there is a way, being a fat stupid liar you are, but there is none, time to stop embarrassing yourself.

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When did I say I’ll drive people out of nullsec easily?

I enjoy small gang pvp with relatively equal number’s, driving people out of their homes does not interest me, that is for you null sec guys who like to swing your man parts all over the place with your capital ship’s.

“Farm farm farming anom’s all day feel bad for us nullsec guys because the game is sooo hard with people farming us” then what do you do with all that farm? you buy capital ships and then ■■■■ on everyone elses home’s by kicking them out of their space.

People should farm you more so that you don’t get 1000 capital ships in the first place, then the residence of the server won’t be oppressed.

There is a way to deal with it- Hit panic and light the cyno- 20 titans jump in and boson.

But hey lets all cry about the PoOr KrAb that now must pay attention to the game- and not Netflix.

haha

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Jesus your just awful at all your arguments. In game map and dotlan don’t show jack. They show a bit of traffic and npc info. Only enough to know where targets might be. Everyone who hunts using it knows this. Zkill doesn’t show ■■■■ unless your looking at a specific person to see their loss history for fitted cynos or lack thereof.

As for “100% risk free ganks” no such thing. Not now and not during blackout. You just ignored everything I said and acted like defending against covert ops is impossible yet again even though wormholers have been doing it for decades.

If nothing else how about you use your own covert ops for defense like wormholers do you ingrate!? Nothing an attacker can possibly do will let them know there was a covert ops group already in system waiting for them. It’s so unbelievably easy to figure these things out. There have been guides available online for HOW DO DEAL WITH CLOAKIES IN NO LOCAL ENVIRONMENTS since literally 2009. Covert ops cynos change almost nothing about that while gates make spotting them early easier.

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What if you’re in one of the 27 null regions which is not home to 20 titans? How do you deal with it then?

Not to mention subcap would instapop and all arrivals are tossed to the sun, which you are 100% clueless about, being stupid and cowardly, making 100% safe ganks an imbecile-proof activity.

low sec was empty and null sec was full of null bears that thought pvp was a fleet fight and never realised they were the F1 monkeys Those null bloc players that really need local will eventually move to occupy low sec. but seriously not much else will change. Instead of being like a progression towards null sec with wormholes as alternative, it will be more like a progression towards wormholes.

also … ALL Praise BOB! his realm coming to k-space is the true invasion!

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So the only way you can rat and mine in nullsec once this is applied is to have 20+ Titans ready to jump in at a moments notice to boson. I would say that is pretty much broken.

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No point using logic against someone who believes their own lies, they will only keep living in their own delusion.

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Speaking of his realm coming to Kspace if blackout becomes a thing it might be time for my wormhole group to get some sov. Despite what some incorrect people say it’ll be far easier to farm in for both kills and isk.

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