That’s like 10 heating T2 torp bombers. 1/7th of Olmeca.
Also its not as easy as your ‘dps’ mode of thinking is, even at bare minimum you still need a blops bs to bridge and a lighter; you will land right ontop of the target and let me be very clear on this…
IF THAT SKIFF IS TANKED he will eat most if not all those bombers with what 120k ehp tank? and thats solo, mining in a small gang well i dont rate the bombers chances.
but please do continue to tell me how bombers work and completely disregard signature radius or others on grid, links, shield reps from orca or porpoise… skills that effect expl radius, sig radius or many other items.
If you want to field full gangs of crapply fitted ships and no scouts because you feel safe thats your choice, but its not an excuse to be bad.
join their channel, not hard to really know what area theyre operating in on any given night.
This is nothing to do with cloaking.
Cloaking does not need balancing because it is a device used to encourage pvp.
Also there are a few cruisers that dont show up on d-scan will these have to be balanced too?
1 Like
Drop combats.
Can you cite a source for that information?
I suggest using the already available early warning system for covert cynos. If used properly you should spot one almost immediately and be able to run away as fast as your little legs will carry you.
The draw back is that it requires a little effort on your part and as such, having read through a myriad of your posts, I don’t think you ever will because you want to rely on a passive protection system rather providing an active one for yourself.
We use it in wormholes as it’s very efficient at spotting certain ships.
2 Likes
It’s also a device used to avoid pvp.
3 Likes
Pathetic attempts to aggravate from a mentally ill individual. What else is there to expect from someone who joined goons.
So we’re agreed it’s 50/50. cool. I can’t see any possible balance better than that, can you?
1 Like
Nah, it’s a lot more avoid than promote. The only cloak that promotes pvp is the covops cloak.
Bottom line is with local alliances could rely fully on passive defense. Everyone uses the intel tools, everyone watches local, nothing bad happens. If you get caught it’s your own fault, so pay more attention next time. Anything big enough to get caught (rorqs or capitals) can be saved with supercap alts. Almost effortless defense, really.
Without those tools people will get caught more often through no fault of their own. Passive defense doesn’t cut it anymore and any alliance worth its space will need to be more active again. Intercept roaming gangs. Scout gates. Set up traps. Have a standing fleet ready to be bridged in. Actively defend their space. Alliances that can’t cope will see their membership drop as PVE players move to those who can.
If you look at this change in the context of how null is being run today it looks totally hopeless. But I think it’s going to change how alliances approach defense and the game as a whole will be better off for it.
Nope, you’re plenty aggravated as-is. I’m just amusing myself.
Good for you, don’t forget the meds though.
Well the wormhole players have been doing what many of you are crying about for the longest while. I never see any wormhole player complaining about mechanics.
You can either get an insight into what wormholers do or stay docked and leave the game.
1 Like
even thats used mostly to avoid other players though isnt it?
- Not a ganktard. Check my killboard.
- All kills ARE free. Just HTFU and do it.
- You can whine all you want, fact is…you’re just a little carebear afraid undock and mine.
Adapt or die. Or, preferably, just quit Eve. You’ve already lost anyway.
2 Likes
I never see cynos get lit in j-space to bring in 200 bombers, either.
Usually!
1 Like
regardless of this i have still seen cyno jammers anchored there lmao
So lets assume 80 * 4899 = 396,819 volley, I don’t see how on earth you can think that a Skiff can tank that, my one for hisec is about 120k EHP. And no he will die in one volley.
You are making assumptions about what other players have done, you will find I have BLOP’s type kills on my killboard, I have done the fuel trucks, dropped a Redeemer on a carrier, been in bombers many times, been in HAML Loki’s to kill Rorquals.
Let me explore some of your own assumptions:
Mine as a small gang, is that individual players or someone multi-boxing, well as soon as you land you get long points on the mining ships and start to orbit with AB or MWD on, if you do not have a point align and do at least two cycles of your prop mod. A skiff will have to lock the bomber and send it’s drones, if it is one player multi-boxing it takes an age. I rate the bombers chances very highly in fact as I have done this.
With the amount of DPS that 80+ bombers have they will melt so quickly that they will likely not lose a bomber, but the less bombers you have the more likely you will take losses. Waffling about sig radius when a Skiff is a shield tank is rather amusing.
I have no idea where you got this from, I said supers or rorquals under a super umbrella. In terms of later when most of the easy kill merchants have got bored with a lack of targets doing ninja ratting and ninja mining with cheap ships and blank clones is the way to go, if you can be bothered to. There are some players who hang tough like Aaron who will do that, I could quite easily do that, but I can earn more in hisec blapping FOB’s.
As for being bad, I define myself as merely being competent.
The issue is cyno’s and what can come in with instant lock like bombers. WH players can maintain hole control by rolling holes, so do not suffer from this level of averse force projection and they pretend that it is the same, it is not. A cloaky in a WH is only a threat if they did not probe out WH’s and control the holes.
1 Like