Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

You keep saying ‘ganktard’ as if holds weight, it really doesn’t. Here my suggestion, before you make these outrageous claims… Perhaps you should set up an alt for null sec ganking. I am pretty sure you will find it to be unlike how you describe. I too use to be pro Anti-afk cloaking till I set up a cloak alt, and discovered how much effort it takes to secure kill that wasn’t someone literally away from the controls.

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In all honesty do you REALLY think most will hunt the target rich areas where they do their thing in relative safety?
They do it in “safety” because they have the numbers (super umbrella) to keep them safe.

It is far more likely the smaller groups without the safety net will be focused on - PVP in Eve has for many years been about "easy kills’ which has nothing to do with fighting against the odds.

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Time system made holding sov much easier. The organization requirement for offensive strategic wins is higher now than before aegis.

There’s one way.

I agree that ganking will be easier, but isn’t it a bit of an exaggeration to say that blackout makes it 100% safe for gankers?

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Still haven’t linked me a zkill and dotlan page for a system that shows how many people are in it and if their mining or ratting. Should be easy for you to prove your claims that they show such information. I mean you have said half a dozen times that anyone “with an IQ over 40 will find you” with zkill and dotlan and they’ll be “100% safe” because of said sites show everyone in system so covert ops know they’ll be safe.

Except you won’t link cause then you’d have to accept your stupid lie by showing everyone your full of it.

(proverb/saying) “Dont argue with an idiot: he’ll bring you down to his level and then hard press with experience.”

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Many words with one meaning “bawww I’m too bad for non-free kills”.

I ran an anti-bot campaign in Perrigen Falls last year with my alliance. Bots were complicated to catch, catching players was TRIVIAL. We got a player kill whenever we wanted, that’s how easy it was.
You literally need to be bottom 5% of this game along with hisec afk miners to not be able to get a kill within current ganktard-favoring meta.

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I simply don’t believe you, due to your readiness to throw insults, and the simple lack of providing proof to your claims. I have attempted to be respectful to you sir, and you have done nothing but act like a child. Grow up, life not fair, you don’t always get your way.

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By now this turd is in a spam mode…he just cycles through his garbage like a true bot.

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It’s not our problem you don’t know how to use the game map to obtain intel. Perhaps if you weren’t so rude someone might even teach you something (sigh).

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fun fact: facts do not care whether you believe them or not.

Every day thousands of pve ships get caught. Every day a single Olmeca makes Delve that much less safe.
Every day baddies disregard those facts and complain about not being given free kills.

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So where are those things now?

They’re gone and you think you “deserve” to go kill people??? What backass logic is that? “i had to try hard now i shouldn’t have to try to kill stuff do you realize how hard i tried i nearly died sometimes :frowning:

You’re a ■■■■■■■ spoiled baby

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You’re an idiot if you can’t figure out how to open the ingame map yourself.

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Remember to Keep docked up people best strategy is to deny them a target wait wait wait if need be till they cry return it to the way it was before even with local they could still get kills, but yes if you are in a small group and cant have the manpower to keep things even Dock away . Play some new games train up a bit , go outside read a book and let the so called hunters go wild on each other that is if they can find each other. Shince they think we are all bots anyway just remember to save the iskies for when you return .

Hope you all have fun starting tommorow :slight_smile:

I honestly was considering playing and enjoying the pvp but…

It’s insane and it won’t be fun. Even baiting will be chaos, people are frothing at the mouth to “finally” kill small subcaps that can’t fight back.

Log off traps are happening ■■■■■■■ everywhere, and the same imbeciles screeching on the forums are likely going to quit within 3 days of no content… so i’ll wait it out.

There isn’t anything fun about fighting easily exploited mechanics. It’s why sun bouncing was hated, it’s why pos bubble bumping was hated, it’s why the old tracking titans were taken away.

No counter isn’t fun unless you’re on the abusing side.

Not gonna lie, if i hadn’t given away my fortune when i took a break years ago i would make a personal blops army and harass the ■■■■ out of everyone’s home who thinks this is a good idea.

Logofftraps and covert actions have become invincible and safe in null. congratulations.

Seriously, give this 1 week, 2 tops and when the pvpers realize it isn’t the dream barrel filled with fish to shoot they will scream themselves into quitting. Gl til the

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Last week only 900 mining bardges were lost in all of eve. Along with 261 exhumer in all of eve ( thus high, low, and null) while 1215 stealth bombers were lost in all of eve( thus high, low, and null)… Your claim holds zero weight.

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I don’t know what will happen so I can’t make a prediction like you are. I can say confidently that I think many people who are excited are going to be disappointing, because excited people tend to only focus on the perceived positives and don’t take the negatives into effect.

While I’m not making a prediction per se, I will say that in the past I’ve seen that excitement turn to sadness and anger time and time again. I remember when many in the community were like “HA, TAKE THAT GOONS” when CCP announced Dominion Sov and basically promised that it would open up null sec to smaller groups and help make coalitions less stable.

It didn’t take long for everyone to learn that Dominion Sov was a GIFT to goons and 'big null blocs" that took null further away from where the 'small groups/anti goons" folks wanted it to go. The funniest thing was how goons were on the forums TELLING people that it wouldn’t work and the excited people were like “you’re just saying that because you know your reign of terror in null is over!!! TAKE THAT GOONS”.

Well, they did ‘take that’, with “that” being half of null…

Like I said, I can’t make a prediction, but I can say that I wouldn’t be surprised if history repeats itself again here. Mainly because the problem wasn’t local (just like the problem with null also it’s the sov system or anything else man made). The problem with null is human nature (in the case, the human tendency towards modifying their environment towards comfort, the same reason null got “too safe” is the same reason we live in cities rather than forests).

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My claim was “pve ships”. You narrowed it down to barges only.
My claim was “caught”. Ganktards so bad they failed a kill is not my problem.
And stealth bomber losses is due to suicide ganking being so off the charts on reward that people started to suicide gank in stealth bombers.

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The more ships I include, the higher the ‘stealth’ ship loss index goes. Again your claims are FACTUALLY incorrect. Why should anyone believe you?

My claim was that stealth bombers losses are due to people suicide ganking in them, more ships you include - more suicide ganking has been done. But somehow you fail to interpret it, what’s wrong?

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Well said. It’s just shocking how short sighted people can be without thinking of the other sides

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