It was there on the way back - Does your pod sit in space for 90 minutes ?
If disconnected the pod would log-off
I was sat 7.5K behind it for 5 mins and it immediately aligned on my de-cloak.
I will not be surprised about you making a stupid argument again.
VNI ratting was peanuts as it is, literally below L4 in hisec.
The whole point of it was that it scaled well with number of accounts.
Well, it doesnāt anymore, meaning VNI ratting is dead, even if you have a defense fleet following one, itās useless as one.
And average ganktard fleet will instapop those, and cackle away. No, subcap pve is rekt.
And some people also been riding unicorns with the yetis.
Definitely.
Retards would do something that does not scale on risk vs reward, some of them will win and claim that is by their skill (despite clearly being stupidity and lazyness of ganktards), some of them will lose but forget about it in 5 minutes like retards usually do.
It takes a completely retarded uneducated ganktard to even venture under umbrella, and a lot of them havenāt been even subbed until recently, so yeah, I underestimated their idiotism once again, but theyāll learn, although at snail pace.
Ok, if you want math, we can do math.
First, you canāt use Covetor in null at the moment, because it instapops. Procurer in null vs Covetor in hisec it is. Second, assuming equal reprocess values for the sake of comparison, at 80%, Veldspar in hisec would give you 220 ISK/m3. Current most valuable nullsec ore is Spodumain, giving 280 ISK/m3, second is Gneiss at 257 ISK/m3 and third is Crokite at 226 ISK/m3. Procurer loses 40% to yield fit Covetor (rounded for convenience). Unless grade school math is too hard, you should be able to see where it goes by now.
Of course you can. Ships are ammo, even for miners. Covetors are cheap, and itās not particularly difficult to rather quickly mine your way past the value of the ship and fit, and everything after that is a profit even if it does get caught and die. Doesnāt really matter if itās a Covetor or a Procurer or whatever the hell else, if itās caught and thereās no defense fleet, it dies. So might as well go with the one that gives the greatest return on investment the fastest.
Add to that nullsec infrastructure, ores, refining values, etc etc and youāre going to have to lose a lot of Covetors before using the same in highsec is more isk/hr.
Everything is a resource spent on some benefit or another, this includes ships, fits, pods, etc etc. Exemplified by profitable suicide ganks, losing ships can be a benefit to the one losing them.
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The whole point was that you could rat and not pay attention or even be AFK
Of course it scales well with multiple accounts - The more accounts you have the more ISK you earn whilst you watch Netflix.
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you see CCP nerfed the ability to be a griefer pirate in eve changed the game from the Adult rating where eve was harsh to weed out the stupid an weak therefore change the game to a model where eve online is Everyone an now the cold harsh unforgiving gameplay is not permitted without a ban as punishment.
Core reason why is the world have changed an the previous behavior which was endorsed then encouraged is no longer allowed due to the new Anti-Harassment policyā¦
Therefore in conclusion eve is NOT the same game as EVE online once was.
Therefore instant reward mechanism have been added.
Want to drink other tears?
Dam* Right
I am a massive AHOLE in eve and was until the changes of the game rating happened with the little āprotection to the soft weak playersā were allowed to enter the gameā¦
So far from the style of posting I have learned a lot about the human at the computers in this forum with an estimated base of personality attention span real world intelligence with a real world level of maturity.
With all of that so called rant stated:
CCP wants EVERYONE in accordance to the new rating system,
I once got a 3 Day ban for being a pirate an making the pilot cry RLā¦
The real world have changed therefore ADAPTING is what CCP is doing for the new player base which can not also at the same time accommodate all of the current to veteran player base.
The game is changing because the real world is changing.
Players do not want to GRIND anymore ya know being millennials an all that jazz.
Intelligence of a selfieā¦
This is why we have new ships with only ONE SKILL ONE WEAPON ONE BUTTON
because it is too hard to overcome the social justice warriors on the internetā¦
After all SELFIE = ONE BUTTON ONE TARGETā¦
MORE THAN ONE target an one skill TOO DAMN HARD!!!
So blackout local so that the less talented have a chance to be talented when the millennials are only capable of one task at a timeā¦
Do you live in your mommiesā basement screaming 1337 PVP while pressing F1 then posting on social media your BU11 $#!7 accomplishment>
you canāt , the covetor will die to Rats instantly
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Eh, not in my experience, but then I havenāt mined in nullsec for likeā¦ five years, so it might have changed. Back when I did, Covetors did just fine if you had a ratbuster cover your mining fleet.
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Well, then i was just unlucky with my tries this year. Somehow i survived the npcs.
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In what space have you been mining ?
nullsec
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Iāve meant region
it was Etherium reach at that time, at least one system which i remember was -0.87, so drone regions.
I think we had a porpoise for boost, remote reps with us. But i guess any combat cruiser could also kill them before there is any danger. Or the athanor if you are moon mining
I tried to solo mine in Blood Raider space , seriously hard in Covetor , or maybe I am terrible in fitting.
You donāt understand. Covetor will die even to a bad NPC spawn unless they are remote shield boosted (and multiple ones are needed, yes itās that bad).
And their cost may be not fatal, but still not trivial - this is an hour of your life of paying full attention without being allowed 1 second lapse. Would you be willing to give it to a random ganktard who will literally instapop it, while it generates zero content because heāll cackle away after said instapop? I will definitely not. Nullsec was risky on Covetor before, and between ganktards and drifters, would definitely not use one now.
With Covetor, if itās caught and there is a defense fleet, it still dies.
With Procurer too actually. Ganktarding is way too safe and way too easy now.
Procurer it is then - cheaper to replace, and with ATTG (average time till ganktarded) being at 7 minutes, it is about 100mil per hour less loss due to replacementl, while being only 8mil per hour more loss due to being ā ā ā ā at mining.
You really couldnāt do math, could you? At absolute best, assuming thereās 6% difference at refining, and infrastructure is free (HELL IT ISNāT), using max yield covetors you will get 20% more than in hisec. Then Iāll add that mining in null for profit likely wonāt work either, because if you reprocess in null, youāll get tremendous transport expenses, so people would usually only transport high-ends (and literally trash pyerite), which is reducing value of spod and gneiss to 0 as they do not even contain high-ends, and crok loses 1/3 of its potential profit value that isnāt in high ends. Thus mining for profit is pointless in nullsec, unless you mine moons and do reactions, but you can do that in any space now.
Youāre asking me to risk my ship for a chance of being able to replace it? May I ask you to give me $100 for a chance of giving it back? No? Then why ask me to do it?
Itās just the game mechanics simply offering no defense against that.
The only reason 100% of ships passing Uedama are not ganked is due to lazyness and stupidity of gankers.
well its a mmo, its better with friends.
for completely solo you would probably use a procurer, porp or maybe even a retreiver because of the cargo bonus.
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Adaptive to toughen shield.
Sacrifice a mining upgrade for an ancillary armor repairer and armor pump rigs to match rats damage profile - I have had them chew the hull but usually because I didnāt have drones already in space
I was never afk when ratting, as I would usually rat in something bigger on my main, while having extra accounts on the economy of scale.
But thatās impossible now, youāre not allowed to use nullsec unless youāre under umbrella anymore, big or small your ship may be.
This guy gets it.
So you missed the whole barge rebalance then, but still talk?
I had to warp out mine, and it had max tank a Covetor can have. Only when I gave up on Porpoise and switched to Orca with multiple remote shield boosters did my warpout spree ended.
He means truesec and rat type.
Drones are among the easier types, they have no missiles, and unless itās queens, not even long range battleships. Queens in -0.87 should be capable to blast all shields off Covetor in one hit though.
No, solo in Covetor would definitely end in death, it doesnāt even have neither slots nor fitting room to be able to tank.
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@Blood Ambulance
The diamond rats?
Yeah they can be a bit harsh.
Looking at this shipās mining and ehp values, congrats, you invented a Retriever without the ore hold.
as of EVE - Entity: Drone Queen a drone queen has an alpha of 440 each 5s. Even a unrigged, no adaptive/extender/dcu covetor has 2.93k EHP in shields only.
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