Those figures are 17 years out of date, the original post containing them was made in 2012, and the person who made it lists them as being from 2008.
In 2008 Eve was 5 years old and still growing – rather rapidly. It continued to grow rapidly until 2011, when CCP dropped Incarna and managed to alienate a large percentage of players, many of whom dropped alt accounts like they had the plague, or quit entirely because of CCP’s tone deaf response to the resulting mayhem – the numbers still haven’t recovered 14 years later.
The most up-to-date numbers I can find are from the 2023 Fanfest 20 Years of Data presentation that I linked to in my original reply to the OP – in which the Dev presenting it clearly says the US accounts for 25% of the player-base at the timestamp shown.
Reread what I’ve posted. I didn’t say the event should be cancelled. I said it should be more front loaded instead of requiring someone to be home and ready to log in for two weeks. Skimming through the comments I see you really ran with that strawman. I also suggested that Omegas automatically receive everything considering they are paying a premium or that it’s extended if the days following it are just empty anyway.
It does not matter where a company is physically located. That’s like saying why should a company in Iceland do any type of business outside of Iceland? If they do business outside their borders and take the money of people outside their borders then, yes, they should consider people outside their borders.
But, you don’t complain that you can participate as U.S. citizen in the Chinese New Year event and others not related to your country, do you? Surely they should remove you from participation?
I would guess other countries are similar busy during their events and can not fully participate, but then again you can make full profit of the event? It all comes together if you would broaden your view please…
You were suggesting changes to cater to you, because you were inconvenienced. You feel important because you’re a person living in a large country, so a game company in another country should cater to your whims because you cannot handle FOMO.
You know, if you left the whole ‘I am important because USA’ story out of this and just asked for the removal of any temporary log-in rewards that exist only to boost log in numbers by preying on FOMO, I’d support that suggestion. I don’t like the usage of such dark patterns in games either.
Omegas aren’t paying some sort of deluxe, gold-leaf ‘premium tier’ that entitles them to celestial dividends – they’re just paying the normal subscription that used to be the only way to play Eve.
That subscription removes the Alpha restrictions on skills, ships, industry, training speed and so on. That’s the entire deal, nothing more, nothing less. There isn’t a secret executive lounge where Omegas get automatic event rewards and a complimentary glass of Quafe Ultra for subscribing.
Calling the basic subscription a “premium” tier is like calling the act of buying a cinema ticket “VIP access” because someone outside is watching the same film through the keyhole.
If you’re saying that the event reward system needs improvement, fair enough – but redefining Omega as a premium tier won’t magically make your ‘gimme ‘cause x’ argument work.
Maybe they should add an in-game Thanksgiving event? It could be an Amarrian holiday to show appreciation for the Reclaiming by eating dry chicken and arguing about politics with your uncle.
As a non-US player I have to say I find it fascinating that american exceptionalism seems to creep into more or less every discussion online. It takes minutes to log in and grab a reward and unless I’m mistaken, might be since I’m new here, CCP usually gives some leeway during these log-in-events by letting you be offline for atleast a few days during it without missing out on any of the goodies.
What you just stated makes zero sense in the context of what I stated. Just utter and complete nonsensical garbage.
I stated there should be an alternate method to claim rewards without requiring the full client be installed on a PC and/or Omega automatically receive the reward they are technically paying for. Later adding that they could be more front loaded, putting all the junk items in the last days or extend event duration. Neither of which infringes on any other country and is universal in their benefits to players of ALL nationalities because this could be applied to ALL holidays internationally.
See my reply to Power Armor above. If you did read my OP then you are knowingly and purposely misrepresenting what I said. Thank you for admitting you are trolling. This is the problem with the Eve forumites (your type). You simply want to be contrarians for the sake of being contrarians. You have nothing of substance to offer and only seek bickering.
Case in point:
Clearly just latching on to anything he can find to feign offense over and bicker about. Everything but genuine criticism toward the substance of what I actually posted.
And for the record, Omega does more than remove alpha restrictions. It provides additional incentives, like extra rewards. Also, Alpha is the new basic. But I digress.
Those rewards are a dark pattern, meant to manipulate you into logging in every day. This makes ‘logging in’ a habit and improves the player counts, which looks good to shareholders. This is why many online games make use of such tricks.
Handing you all those rewards without logging in defeats the purpose of these rewards. It removes the reason those rewards exist.
If you ask me the best solution is if CCP removes all those rewards. I don’t like these and all the other cheap manipulative dark patterns in games and think games would be a lot more fun if devs encouraged players to log in with just good gameplay instead.
Personally I think the ‘Log-In Rewards’ should only be available to collect after a character from each account actually logs into the game…
Those items would still be entered into the Redeem list, the only difference is the player would either wait until next log-in to distribute rewards to their other characters on that account or just immediately log-out and re-log back to the character selection screen to distribute the rewards..
Yeah, it’s a few extra steps but it definitely insures the player is actually logging into the game and not just into the character selection screen..
As it is now, players don’t have to actually log their accounts into the game to collect rewards, just open up character selection screen on each account, click collect rewards, distribute rewards to characters, close character selection screen, rinse and repeat on each account… Not even 5 minutes of time spent on each account to complete that…
I do that for most of my Alpha accounts… However whenever SP’s are redeemed, I’ll immediately log a character into the game to apply those points… Most of the time I’ll wait till the end of the Event Log-in reward cycle before actually logging in characters from each account into the game, mainly it’s to contract all rewards to my main character..
However this past expansion was a bit different due to the Mining Arc… I logged in about half of my Alpha characters to run that arc and get a free Pioneer Mining Destroyer…
Anyway, I digress from the topic…
So yeah, I think Event Log-in Rewards should only be available and collected after logging a character from each account into the actual game, not from just opening the character selection screen…
Everything but genuine criticism toward the substance of what I actually posted.