No problem with that. You can get quite enjoyment, even as an alpha.
I haven’t wandered into any lowSec or nullSec areas yet. I feel like, as a complete newb with insignificant ships and weapons, and no Corp to back me up, it’d be like a sheep wandering into a wolf’s den. Is it as bad as I’m assuming? Will I just be ripped apart for resources the moment I enter, or is there actual opportunity for me to survive long enough to get more resources for myself in those areas?
I’m okay with losing ships some percent of the time that I wander in, but if it’s going to cost me more to replace what was lost than I’m ever going to gain from the few times that I survive, then it seems prudent to wait until I’ve got a stronger ship and better skills, or until I’m part of a group with a strong presence.
I don’t mind battle and losing ships as long as either:
- I’ve got at least a chance of winning the battle, and I’m not just an ant under some giant’s boot.
- I know that I’ll get out alive having gained something often enough to make it worth the losses.
I would call it working with him. With his lofty goals, I want him to find out first hand how powerless the CSM is watch as it crushes his soul!
The OP joined EVE at a interesting time! 
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CSM???
Basically they are supposed to represent us to CCP, but most of the Counsel of Stellar Management members have their own goals and represent nullsec Mostly. You’ll find two members on the forums quite a bit. Mike Azariah, who is also an avid carebear and new player helper by giving out free ships via whats called the Magic School Bus
Then Brisc Rubal, who is Nullsec player, but says he represents the entire community of the game.
Don’t worry, it’s an inside joke. This is a fun thd and were just trying to run with it! 
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Got it. Just trying to learn the acronyms and game specific terms. Pointing them out when I see one I don’t yet know.
Anyhow, back to my lowSec and nullSec question?
A LOT to take in, but this thread has a lot of information on just about anything, which is basically taken from EVE university
As far as Low/Null sec, you’ll hear some people say yes, others say no. Its good to get the experience of going to null or low sec, but as a newbie, you are most likely either going to get ripped to shreds or get ripped to shreds and compensated for the loss depending on the person who rips you up.
Got it. Check out lowSec and nullSec eventually, but expect to loose a ship as part of the experience. Perhaps I’ll wait until I own more than just the Training missions free ships.
That’s a great segue into my next question…
I only own the Training Mission ships so far:
- 1 Reaper
- 1 Thrasher
- 1 Burst
- 2 Probes
- 1 Rifter
- 1 Slasher
- 3 Ventures
- 2 Wreathes
Should I be looking to “upgrade” soon, or will these keep me pretty well provisioned for a few weeks of game play? Aside from replacing existing ships as they are lost in battle, how do I know if/when it is time to invest in a new ship type?
I’ve heard plenty of “Don’t fly what you can’t afford to lose.” Does that mean I should be able to afford to re-purchase (and re-provision) a particular ship type a few dozen times over before I buy and fly the first one?
Those aren’t just training mission ships, those are ships that you’ll find flying every day in New Eden. the Training missions just give you them for free to help get you started. Depending on what you do in game, can depend on what ship you use, and what type etc. The image below can give you a really good idea of what all can be done in this game.
Dont fly what you can’t afford to lose. Basically put, if you can’t re buy the ship at least once (i say twice) without being broke, then you don’t need to fly that particular ship or set up…
I’ve seen that graphic before, which is a big part of why I haven’t asked the super-newb question, “What do I do now?” I realize it’s a sandbox and that I get to choose what I do. I also realize that I’m so new, that it’s nearly impossible for me to know what I actually want to do. I just don’t have enough experience yet to know what I’ll enjoy the most (it’s a bit like asking a 5 year old what they want their job to be when they grow up).
My question wasn’t really “What ship should I fly?”, since you can’t answer that without knowing what I want to do with it.
I don’t really have any sandbox gaming experience. In most resource driven games, you gain resources so that you can gain “better” equipment. You want better equipment so that you can gain more resources. And you want more resources so you can gain better equipment. (Continue the circle until bored). I typically get bored with games like that very quickly. The sandbox aspect of this game intruges me, and I suspect (hope?) it will hold my interest a lot longer.
In a typical resource driven game, you purchase the newer better thing (whatever it is) as soon as you can afford it, since having it will significantly reduce the time it takes to get to the next thing.
In EVE it seems like there is still a bit of a need to choose the right ship for the right task, but I’m not as certain how to tell what the right ship is, or when it isn’t foolish to attempt that task. I assume that looking at those ship fit guides may help get a better understanding of which ship is the right ship for various tasks, but I’m still not sure how to know that it isn’t too soon to attempt something with a reasonable chance of success. I suppose the “afford to buy the ship (and re-provision) at least twice” might make a good rule-of-thumb. I’ll stick with that until I get any other advice.
It really depends on how hard, or how easy you want something to be… As you move from L1 up to L2 and to L3 missions, you’ll want to get bigger ships like up to Battlecruisers for L3, but also, you want to make sure you are proficient with the current ship you are using.
I’m gonna use Caldari ships as an example.
I prefer missile based over turrets.
So say i start with a Kestrel. I get the skills to use it and efficiently mow down L1 security missions. I get enough ranking with the corporation and move on up to L2. Now i get a Corax. the skills with the corax may not be sufficient to complete in a timely manner as with a kestrel, so I may still use a kestrel, as i’m training up the corax. and the mods with it…
Can you use smaller ships for harder missions? Yes, but you have to have really good skills and efficiency of flying that particular ship to complete it. Say for instance a Drake (battlecruiser) can do L4 missions, but if you are not on your toes, and have really good skills with the mods on the ship, you can easily lose it.
Using smaller ships for larger missions, can also allow you to have room to have help with missions too, one person can shield tank or armor tank before you show up, or vice versa… you can shield tank til someone shows up to help (that are in a fleet with you)
Lets move on to a couple of Corp related questions…
First,
Seems like a quality Corp wouldn’t want to invest a lot of time and effort into a newb, since so many quit after a short time. I don’t feel like getting milked for taxes while I wait for the Corp to decide that I’ve stuck around long enough to be worth some effort, so I figure NPC Agent missions can keep me busy while I prove that I’m here to stay and that I’m worth investing in.
Completing Agent missions will allow me to gain skills (such as flying now that I know how) as a user, and will allow my character to gain enough equipment and skills to actually be able to accomplish something useful for a Corp if/when I join.
As a brand new user, who has never played before, and has extremely few skills developed yet, am I on the right track with the decision to just keep at the NPC Agent missions for a few weeks, or is there real opportunity for me to learn and develop my character in a Corp this early?
Agent missions are what all PVE mission runners go with, unless you branch out to incursions… Some corps do specialize in helping newbs, but sometimes you can get lost in the shuffle where there is always so many coming and going in some corps.
Here’s another Corp question…
Having never been part of a Corp, it’s difficult for me to picture what it really means. I can see a group of similarly skilled players creating a fleet that works well together for various tasks that they all want to engage in, but with a wide spread of players experience, I have a hard time picturing what an outsider joining a Corp would do.
If a worthwhile Corp that is actually willing to provide opportunity to develop my character were to accept me, what sort of tasks can I expect to perform as such a low level, low skill, low capitalized character?
I know, I know, it all depends on which Corp I join, and what I want to do, but in the real world even though there are a lot of different types of companies and people, an entry level job is still an entry level job and while there is opportunity to move up eventually, it typically starts out with menial, monotonous, boring tasks that need to be done and nobody else wants to do (filing, data entry, etc). I assume entry level to an EVE Corp will be equivalent?
Am I just going to be spending hours shooting lasers at asteroids? Am I going to be shuttling equipment around between locations? Am I going to be used as cannon fodder, and expect to be sent on suicide missions to give enemies something to shoot at? Just want some sense of what to expect.
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For me, When I was helping new players in my corp, I would drop down to a frigate and run L1’s with them or have them follow after doing some L4’s and have them salvage and loot, and buy back the loot and salvage and giving them the isk for it.
For me, When I was helping new players in my corp, I would drop down to a frigate and run L1’s with them or have them follow after doing some L4’s and have them salvage and loot, and buy back the loot and salvage and giving them the isk for it.
That sounds a bit like, “let me play the game for you”.
I understand that help can be useful, but it’s got to be difficult to balance on the line between simply helping a player, and just doing everything for them. It seems like the challenge of completing a task is what makes it fun. Having too much help eliminates any sense of accomplishment?
Hey thanks for the name tag, I appreciate it.
I quickly scanned the thread and didn’t see any questions about gaining and or repairing standings. Nor did I see any specific questions pertaining to running missions and or doing exploration, topics that I’m also familiar with as well.
Anyway, it seems you and @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras are doing great and have everything handled here so you guys got it…
I didn’t “play the game” for newbies, i was basically just a support ship. While helping to know what to look for, who or what to shoot etc.