Never did, excuse my poor english if it’s what you understood.
It’s the CDC, not reptiliansonlinedotcom, they are gathering datas on adverses reactions and the symptoms associated. One of those symptoms is called death (i’m a capsuleer, i don’t know what it means) and there’s a number on the same line. I don’t want to interpret them publicly because i don’t have the background to. I’ve done that research for myself, i’m just happy to share the link.
You do whatever you want with, and you are free to think whatever you want.
That was a reference to the person before who was calling me an idiot.
Sure, but data is only useful once it has been interpreted in some way. If you have data and don’t explain it, then that is the same thing as not having any data. You wanted to show me this data I can only assume because you disagreed with what I said. What I will say to you about it is, if vaccines caused deaths, it would be clear in the data. There are statistical tests which can be done to detect abnormalities on data, and ‘we’ would have already heard about them if they existed.
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I get that death following vaccination is not necessarily related to a specific vaccine, but on a personnal standpoint this kind of potential outcome has to be considered, no matter if it’s a smartbomb or a railgun, when you get podded you get podded, that’s why i looked for those datas.
Sure, it’s completely valid to want to investigate, but be very sceptical about your own findings. Listen to what the majority of experts are saying. Expert consensus will always beat anyone else to the correct answer. The expert consensus is that the vacciens are safe, trust them!
Vaccines ARE safe and i’ve no problem taking a shot that might kill 0.5% of the jabbed people to protect from something that kills 20% of people that get sick. I might look twice for a 0.3% - 1% ratio.
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Yeah, I can tell from your past posts that you get it, but I also want my posts to convince those who are worried about the vaccine…
That’s where the defiance originate from, some people die from vaccination but we are told the vaccine is 100% safe. Even if there’s a good rationale behind this there’s a slight perfume of cognitive dissonance that alarms the most paranoids among us. Add a couple of medical scandals to it, shake.
Covid does not kill 1 in 5 people that contract it.
You absolutism is a major problem.
You have no business being so certain about a vaccine you were not directly there producing, inspecting, or testing. You also have no business being so certain about a shot you did not admininster, nor were there to administer, and its effects on a patient.
No only can a vaccine be tainted, it is also possible for mix-ups to happen. Even the needle can be contaminated.
You need to learn to use qualifiers such as, “the odds are low” and “probably” and “most likely”. Just saying dead pan “this is all normal and fine” is outrageously irresponsible.
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If you are educated on this subject that is nothing short of terrorising. So to clarify you are saying people who have been expressly told by a MD not to take this vaccine owing to the ill effects it will likely cause them should ignore the MD & obtain a vaccine?
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No, it’s reality. The vaccine is safe, period. Your speculation about contaminated needles and such is pure tinfoil hat nonsense. It may be theoretically possible for those things to happen but you’re more likely to die in a car accident driving to the doctor.
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The thing is it is not even just one vaccine.
If a person feels the RNA style vaccines should have more testing then they should get the more traditional ones like J&J.
There are choices that are not new technology.
I understand, it’s essentially a fear of the unknown which happens to us all. But you don’t have to take my word for it, listen to what the experts are saying. These days there re numerous working doctors and active researchers that have youtube channels which they run to help educate people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjtrev8cZnk - Here is one example.
I don’t watch mainstream media for good reason, because stories are nearly always written by journalists who think they know what they are talking about, but they don’t. I only ever look to the people who work in the profession of interest, and I won’t listen to any single one of them because bad eggs always exist. I will believe the general consensus among them and the established science.
It’s only a major problem for you because you don’t understand that you can be absolutist about things when there is enough data showing that nothing abnormal is going on. 100’s of millions of people have been vaccinated at this point, how much more data do you need to feel safe? The reality is if you get ill after having the vaccine and die, it was going to happen to you anyway.
Mixups and needle contaminations have got nothing to do with the safety of the covid vaccine. That is a general risk with any vaccine and the odds of that happening anyway are pretty much zero.
A final point. Even if I granted you that the vaccine has killed people, your risk of dying from the vaccine is still extremely low and you are many many times more likely to die from catching the virus, and even if you don’t die from the virus, you can be left with very serious health issues. Having the vaccine is an absolute no brainer.
There’s a fair bit of Texas Sharpshooting going on here; Texas Sharpshooting being a logical fallacy where someone cherrypicks a data cluster to suit their argument, or finds a pattern to suit their presumptions.
I’ve had my first AstraZeneca shot, for me there were minimal side effects in that I felt a bit crap for a couple of days afterwards. With reference to the risk of death from a blood clot, it’s minimal and blood clots are part of the bodies natural reaction to an injury; an intramuscular injection is an injury.
If someone gets stuck with a contaminated needle that’s not a result of the contents of the vaccine, it’s the result of shitty practices by the people dispensing it.
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You and your crystal ball again.
Sorry, I don’t think your crystal ball works.
You were not even responsible enough to specify which vaccine of the many there are and have been talked about. Its probably Moderna, but your lack of clarity speaks to your level of responsibility.
Apparently, one lot of the Moderna vaccine was causing anaphylaxis. And its quite likely a future lot could have a problem as well. You don’t know, but that never stopped you talking as if you did before.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/18/health/ca-vaccine-lot-pause/index.html
Where i’ve said something like that?
"Moderna said 37 different states got shipments from the lot, which included more than 1.2 million doses, and said most had likely been used.
In California, more than 330,000 doses from the lot were distributed to 287 providers across the state from January 5-12. Tens of thousands of doses may have already been administered, but the number of unused doses is unknown, according to Darrel Ng, a spokesperson for the California Department of Public Health.
CDPH said Sunday that fewer than 10 people at a clinic in San Diego who received Covid-19 shots from the lot required medical attention over the span of 24 hours. The state said it was not aware of anyone at any of the other 286 sites who had similar allergic reactions after receiving vaccine from the lot."
The irony of accusing others of being irresponsible.
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It’s a shame that there’s no vaccine for being a complete tool.
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This is an interesting point, me and my brother got it at the same time, my brother checked all boxes of people who had the worst outcome including he’s on oxygen, YET somehow he survived AND got better faster then I did.
Obviously genetics must be at play including who knows what virus type we had, every member of my family including extended family that got it made it with little after effects.
However I personally know people who have died (not family genetically), and are permanently disabled with various things.
As I posted before it’s a personal choice, but honestly I think it’s worth it to get it and not play Russian roulette.
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