I think you must not know what a “lot” is. Its either that or you don’t realize that if one “lot” is causing more allergic reactions than another then that means one of two things 1) quite a few more people in one place are allergic to an ingredient of the Moderna vaccine (a statistical improbability) or 2) something is in that lot of Moderna that should not be there.
It would have been nice if the media followed up on that event, but as usual, no one is more irresponsible than the media.
How do you feel about serving as guinea pigs for big farma? Personally I don’t mind. It’s not like we have a choice, is it? They’ll do with vaccination the same thing they did with bank account. Try to live a normal life without a bank account… it’s now impossible. Soon, none of us will be able to live a normal life without proof of vaccination, like those vaccination passports that are now springing in few countries.
We have NO choice. We have to submit or be alienated from society.
Welcome to Democracy, peeps!
All that’s going on here is you are suffering from confirmation bias. X happened after people took Y vaccine, therefore Y vaccine is causing it. You haven’t though about the numbers of distribution at all.
What do you think the chances are that if the batch is contaminated, it would cause allergic reactions at one location and not the other 280+. It doesn’t take a big brain to understand that makes no sense. Yes, there is always the chance there is an issue with the vaccine, but the chance is no higher than the chance that it is a statistical fluctuation.
If you also read the article, it says the reactions are treatable and all the experts say that there is no reason to pause the vaccine over this. That means none of them think the vaccine is causing it, not just me.
Anyway, you do what you want, I don’t really care. Just stop scaremongering because you don’t know what you are talking about.
You are free to go in the woods and live off the land and not have the vaccine. If you want to be part of a society, then you have to follow the rules and accept the responsibilities to other people in that society. You don’t have the right to do what you want, that’s why laws exist.
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Remember this also. You, as a member of society, have a responsibility to not negatively affect the lives of others around you. You do not have the right to do what you want in a society. You are not allowed to murder people. You are not allowed to rob people. You are not allowed to spread a virus around which may kill people.
You have the freedom to leave society and live on your own in the woods off the land. Then you can have all the rights you want.
If you have the vaccine,
it doesn’t prevent you to get the virus, and the disease.
However,
it prevents the symptoms,
and,
it may also save your life from not having to suffer from the symptoms,
which symptoms include having long term organ failure,
due to over-reacting from your antibodies production being too strong for your own organs ability to adjust to those antibodies.
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If you don’t get the vaccine,
your risk of getting the virus without vaccine protection increases,
because,
more people with the vaccine can get the virus,
and,
become asymptomatic carrier,
and,
the asymptomatic carriers there are,
the greater the risk of contracting the virus and pandemic disease.
Additionally,
even if avoiding to contract the virus and pandemic disease with other protection forms,
one may still get the virus or disease from non pandemic disease source, such as from the lesser spreading of epidemic disease,
viral infection agent, or, viral agent infection.
Also,
to not have the vaccine and not catch the coronavirus COVID-19,
not the other coronavirus variants from before,
doesn’t mean that your child will be affected from the vaccine,
even if many have had it during pregnancy and their child was safe from damage.
However, it does mean that the child and the mother or potential mother will be more at risk to contract the virus,
and,
that,
without having the protection from the vaccine for the side-effect of the virus,
besides the side-effects of the vaccine.
In other words, collateral damage, not collateral consequences.
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This is a highly subjective suggestion and representation of how facts are.
While it is criminal to negatively affect the lives of others around you,
when those around you try to make you negatively affect their lives,
because they want cover up negatively affect you,
and, while they themselves broke the law,
broke the law while not caring about damages caused to you,
because they intended to justify the damage caused to you,
and disregard misrepresentation of facts and falsification of reports about those damage caused to you,
and in fact focus on the greater good,
which in this case also is misrepresented as being damage,
in yet more intelligence attempts to undermine the same society the one wrongfully accused of damage to that society
has the benefit of his work to not only expose this,
and not hide it,
to correct the problem instead,
and prevent damage caused to himself,
which damage caused to himself from others,
may well interfere against benefit to society,
if that person was indeed being good towards society,
and so, not damage and negatively affect the lives of other around you.
Also, if those people are negative and you can help them by explaining them how they are negative and how they can improve without trying to interfere against their communication to do so explain and describe their analysis,
which,
if you sought to forfeit their work,
you also negatively affect and attack the same party you represent as to be protected from this…
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You not only have the right to do what you want in society,
but you also don’t have the right to do things that are against others, and not for them,
even if society tried to coerce you to be against them,
by misinterpreting you,
and, hiding the misinterpretation,
and how the misinterpretation is being interfered against,
and how this is negatively affecting society,
and how it is more positive to not hide it.
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You are not allowed to rob people,
but you also are not allowed to be an accessory after the fact,
after people have been robbed,
and try to extort from them by force,
under the false pretense that this is not being negatively affecting society,
because the negative effect of the extortion is hidden.
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You are not allowed to spread a virus around which may not only kill people, but, also murder them, mass murder them, genocide them, and also interfere against their reproductive rights, and interfere against their rights to have a family, all in the name of the misinterpretation of the law and what is good,
and how society is being 1% negatively affected while covering 99% more damage hidden and unseen.
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However, if you kill a murderer of your family in self-defense in the next 24 hours of the crime, you are justified in your killing.
That is, including if those you tried to interfere against you to do so have a family, so as to cause you to have your family have a potential to be murdered from birth,
was interfered,
due to false fears about negatively affecting society for creating someone who might be murdered,
which is not good for society,
as it would negatively affect them.
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You should have the freedom to not only leave society,
but, also,
to have freedom of movement,
but,
when that freedom is attacked
and other logics as well,
then, it is more obvious as to what is negative,
and how the authorities that be are limited in the interpretation of that negatively affecting others,
and, what they need to see the bigger picture.
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Also, you can’t leave society and have all the rights,
when,
you violated the rights of others.
You do so forfeit your rights when you alienate the rights of others,
and ,
seek to forfeit the inalienable rights of others.
You also do not have all the rights to live on your own in a place which has woods on its lands…
Those places are regulated by Forest Guard which one of my uncle also was,
and,
which he also left me in inheritance from, and about , and for it too…
Even by being quiet when not allowed to be quiet is not going to be less negatively affecting society.
You omit too many things and too many facts and the logic is flawed and tainted on many grounds and points.
I mostly agree with that, however, viral load really plays the biggest part of how infectious you are. If you are vaccinated, your immune system is ready for action and keep the amount of virus in your body supressed until your immune system eliminates it. While it is likely you are somewhat contagious, it would not be to the extent that an unvaccinated person is, where the virus has chance to replicate to a very large number before the immune system kicks in. Also, the lack of symptoms help to stop the spread, i.e. no coughing, which is a big way in which the virus gets into the air. So while vaccine theoretically don’t stop the spread of the virus, it does greatly reduce it. It’s precisely the reason why herd immunity can exist, all vaccines are is artificial herd immunity.
I mostly agree with that, however, viral load really plays the biggest part of how infectious you are.
How does viral load plays the biggest part of how infectious you are.
In what details will it be more details as to how contagious you are,
to reduce infection level, which,
infection level is how the pandemic remains a pandemic.
Once that contagion level diminishes to under controllable levels,
and no, I don’t mean control by lockdown control,
I mean control in the sense that,
the spreading levels will be less contagious, and,
people will spread the contagion less,
even if lockdown may be good for that,
although, the level to which it is good,
and how to actually do essential matters because,
many essential works already had masks before the pandemic and before lockdown.
I for one used to and did have tools for work for that due to the risk of exposure from work.
And yes, we have to deal with misinformation at work which can cause injury and death.
You can’t rely on a report more than the trust level of that report is.
That can cause death.
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If you are vaccinated, your immune system is ready for action and keep the amount of virus in your body supressed until your immune system eliminates it.
If you are vaccinated from other vaccines ,
your immune system is more ready for action and keep the amount of virus in your body suppressed until your immune system eliminates it.
For this virus, however, it cannot work that way,
because the virus problem is that it causes an over-reaction of the antibodies, like a psychotic reaction,
which has the adverse effect, not negatively affect, even though it does also negatively affect,
which over-reaction of the antibodies causes them to attack the internal organs, either to cause death,
or, long term illness,
or, in many cases,
recuperation without long term effect.
Many cases however have life long problems from recuperating,
some severe, some less severe.
Oh those cases, what are the reasons they don’t react the same way.?
What conditions does change those reactions,
and what are the differences in the organisms, if any,
which causes those differences in levels?
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So, while this vaccine does not suppress the virus,
it does control the side-effect of the virus,
which consists of the attacks on the internal organ,
by limiting the way the virus can enter the system.
It also diminishes the level of antibodies created by diminishing the strength of the virus.
It is also a Trade Secret.
You don’t want those people weaponizing the vaccine and the virus and disease.
So, once the symptoms are controlled, the antibodies build up,
and, you can still catch the virus and variants, and propagate both the first one, as if you didn’t, or, more strongly,
and variants.
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While it is likely you are somewhat contagious, it would not be to the extent that an unvaccinated person is, where the virus has chance to replicate to a very large number before the immune system kicks in.
While it is likely you are somewhat contagious,
Why are you somewhat contagious, and, what level is that, exactly, and, what exact level of accuracy in scientific notation are we talking about here, not only qualitative measures, which are not as accurate scientifically as can be, for this scope of discussion.?
Even without trying to throw the communication in the discussion into a tailspin as is so often seen how they try to.
it would not be to the extent that an unvaccinated person is,
Why is it not more, if they don’t need a mask, because the mask, while better, will only protect a little bit from spreading to others, and is designed to protect oneself.
If you are vaccinated and didn’t get the virus, yes, you should wear a mask, as it may prevent you from getting the virus.
If you are vaccinated and did get the virus, yes, you should wear a mask, as it may prevent you from infecting other from getting the virus, even though not completely, and that it would be better to use exhale system to capture the carbon emission.
But yes, it is still better than nothing.
The exhale goes on the side of the mask, and the distance of the exhale is reduce, however, existent.
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Additionally,
what exact rates, or, which more exact rates,
in which scope, to what extent, and,
why, and how. ?
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where the virus has chance to replicate to a very large number before the immune system kicks in.
Again, because of the nature of the virus, this may not be the case.
Why make statement that are not verified when the verification is what makes the certainty level the level that the certainty level is?
That does defeat the purpose and misrepresents the facts.
The immune system for this virus in particular does kick in too strong, which is what the virus is about,
not the other way around,
not the other way other viruses work and are.
Not all viruses are the same,
and no 2 viruses are the same.
Some viruses properties are the same,
some viruses properties are the similar,
however, those are described,
analyzed, and their mutations too.
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“scientific method”
In a typical application of the scientific method, a researcher develops a hypothesis, tests it through various means, and then modifies the hypothesis on the basis of the outcome of the tests and experiments. … In this way, hypotheses serve as tools by which scientists gather data.
“american scientific method”
He, as do many of his science colleagues, states that the scientific method has four steps: 1) observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena; 2) formulation of a hypothesis to explain the phenomena (in physics, the hypothesis often takes the form of a causal mechanism or a mathematical relation); 3) …
The scientific method is an empirical method of acquiring knowledge that has characterized the development of science since at least the 17th century. It involves careful observation, applying rigorous skepticism about what is observed, given that cognitive assumptions can distort how one interprets the observation. Wikipedia
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Even, for problem-solving,
one analyses the problem.
Once the best details and scope of the problems are found,
the analysis of the solution starts.
You can imagine solutions without details of the problem.
however, the scope won’t be in sync, and,
the solution and potential solution and best solutions will have to be adjusted.
So, if you work from practical experience and practical analysis of the problem, instead of the solution, first,
you can achieve design of the solution better, depending…
Now, to decide on the best solution,
you must compare the solutions.
Once this is done, you can find the best solution and alternate best solutions, or even solutions better than good enough if chosen as best, in case more time or resources become available which were not available, due to budget constraint , competition, legal feasibility, operational feasibility, or other feasibility, even economic, in case of boycott for instance, or pandemic.
Then you implement the solution.
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If parts are missing, you analyze them, and record them,
and store their records, and, when someone seeks forfeiture,
you record it and use it for the work.
I understand, but let me explain my point with a theoretical example. The response of your body is determined by the amount of individual virus in your body. So at the extreme low end, 1 viral particle would not make anybody ill. It’s obvious that the virus would not be able to replicate enough to cause a subsequent reaction in the body which would endanger life.
On the other extreme, imagine if you inhaled 100 billion viral particles. It would start causing damage very quickly indeed.
This is what I mean about the viral load. The amount of virus in your body exponentially increases as time goes on. This exponentially increases the amount of damage that is done to your body. Exactly whether it’s the virus itself, or your immune system that does the damage, for the purposes of the point I was making, it doesn’t really matter.
If you have very little virus in your body, its going to be much harder to spread that to other people and make them ill than if you had a large amount of virla particles in your body. Being vaccinated means that your body is ready to prevent the exponential growth in viral particles, and thus you will have less in your body, which makes it harder to spread.
If someone interprets facts differently, you record it and include it,
and record how they do so, and why and what they seek to gain from it, and what differences affect the system scientifically from it.
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Why, and how?
Why is the response in your body determined by the amount of individual virus in your body?
How is the the response in your body determined by the amount of individual virus in your body?
The response in your body is not determined by the amount of individual virus in your body.
The response in your body is determined by the amount of antibodies your individual body produces against the virus in your body.
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If that is true,
how.?
How can you say something and not have proof?
Those are all hypotheses for models with no proof.
Every thing is fine, and, you can make all the hypotheses in the worlds for models to build systems, and hide facts and omit details for trade secrets,
however, what are the facts and what is the proof ?
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It’s if A.
then B.
Not C.
But D.
Therefore, E. would be F.
However, A. was not proven for B.
Therefore we still need to verify A for B and C and D and E and F too.
In fact, load the whole thing in a computer and let me know when you’re done so we can verify instead.
1 Virus is enough to cause the Pandemic Sherlock.
You don’t need 10,000 variants.
No you can’t.
You need proof of what that mathematical statement is.
Otherwise it’s just a false mathematical statement without scientific notation as to the degree of certainty and if that degree of certainty proves to be zero, then it’s zero and as false as true is 1.
Go and study computer science some more and come back to communicate with me when you are done.
I don’t have 3 years to spend for that now.
It does.
And you make no sense.
You even try to make the sense make no sense which is even more scientific proof of how much sense you make yourself.
I’m done with you.
I am also going to sleep and will wake up in around 3 hours thanks to all the hours of time used for replying to the certainty ratio under 1,000,000 % you exhibit so scientifically accurately.
It might make sense to you, but you are very incoherent. It’s difficult to read what you are writing.
As for scientific proof, that’s just a arbitrarily defined probability which you are willing to accept as the truth. It’s not provable like a mathematical statement is.
It means you’re lying .
It has the proof how you lie and the level of the lies you do.
You are making hypothesis and you need to prove your hypothesis with practical experience.
People are not human guinea pigs to be experimented on ,
and lie it’s not something related to ethics,
and lie that it’s not what certain humans are done .
It’s also not fair for people to be expected to be treated like that,
because of psychotic belief about what non-sense is,
which is out of contact with reality to the level of contact with reality that it is.
You can’t treat people like that because others did.
Those others that did were doing it from tests for good reasons.
Not so that others can be treated like that too.
This is an ethical matter and a legal matter, not a scientific matter.
Have no respect and get it back.
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I rather get police clearance, apply for police work,
and bust those bad scientists who give a bad name to science by trying to misinterpret fact, and try to blame others for non-sense they themselves try to damage them with ,
while at the same time trying to gain benefit from making false accusation of non-sense,
which level of non-sense they themselves omit,
while seeking to justify forfeiture and spoils of war.
I would charge them for war crimes.
That’s the most immoral intentions against my family that will ever be.
It’s literally taking things out of context and relying on propaganda to justify those actions.
Serves them well.
Maybe it will help them to find out about the limits of propaganda as a science compared to other more stable and proven science.
Yes well, we as humans don’t have time to present a full report with every statement we make. A certain amount of faith has to be applied, along with a certain level of scepticism.
I’m also here for nothing more than to say the vaccines are safe. It’s everybody else who wants to get into the irrelevant details of why.
