You aren’t a wormholer aren’t you? Your idea is old and it would break w-space cloak-usage just so you can rat in nullsec without any threat ever getting close.
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Please enlighten me then
Forgive me, I mean traction.
Thank you and same to you Dracvald.
People go in wh’s for days, weeks.
This thread is a cloaky camper itself.
Its there, but it doesn’t do anything, it just sits there. Yet it makes you feel uneasy.
It is a shitty thing, but you know it won’t go away anytime soon.
It is impossible to engage or destroy and you know the only solution is to go somewhere else.
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Lol I’m just being facetious; used the poop emoji to try and convey that, apparently without success.
It ensures a presence.
The “little robot” is against the TOS and will get a player banned. Maybe someone cares enough to risk that… but I doubt many will.
If the person is coming back every few minutes to hit the mouse… they’re at their computer. They may be watching netflix and just returning long enough to click on the client… but that means they’re looking at their client and seeing what’s going on for that minute.
Maybe they ignore the juicy target on d-scan or the smack-talk in local… or maybe they don’t… but they see it. The possibility exists for them to act on that information.
That chance becomes zero of they are asleep while logged in. Or going for a walk. Or out to dinner with their spouse.
I don’t see why I shouldn’t know it. I think all players should be at their keyboard or logged off due to inactivity.
I think it’s silly to make it seem like there’s someone there to interact with if they aren’t actually there… regardless of if they’re in station or in space.
If you want to leave them logged in but just remove them from local when they are inactive… that works too. I think it’s silly to have a situation where one person can waste their effort and time trying to hunt someone down who’s actually asleep in their bed and didn’t log off while cloaked.
No, it will not get a player banned. A robot which physically moves the mouse and never interacts with the game software is literally undetectable. Short of directly telling CCP “I’m using a mouse robot, please ban me” there is no way they could ever know that you’re doing it.
And if that possibility is 0.00000001% why does it matter? A person who is AFK and only interacting with their computer long enough to refresh the AFK timer is probably busy doing other stuff. They aren’t going to try to play EVE by remote desktop on their phone just because they see some talk in local.
It’s like suggesting that the self destruct system is not interesting enough because there’s no possibility of self destructing, so it should randomly start counting down just to force an interaction with it. An interaction which exists for the sole purpose of having an interaction is a solution in need of a problem.
Is it also silly to have a situation where you waste time and effort trying to hunt someone down who’s actually just a zero-SP market alt that never undocks and doesn’t even have a ship in that station? Is it also silly to waste time and effort trying to hunt down someone who’s in an unarmed covert ops frigate and impossible to engage? Wasting time and effort happens in EVE, and we don’t need intel tools that tell you the status of a player. If you want that information find it the hard way. Look up their active timezones, set a trap and assume they’re inactive if they don’t take it, etc.
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Doesn’t work. Cause it still tells you when someone is there or not. If you know whether they are active or not, then you know when to dock or not.
Obviously this ruins the balance of risk for living in null.
So remove local.
No one would live in null if you removed local because why would they waste so much time and assets to install themselves in that sov without having a sense of control over said sov.
Come to think of it random roamers ought to be at disadvantage because they didn’t put in the same effort as the defenders into that space.
Since numbers is what the current devs favour balance toward you’re lucky we didn’t get sov structures that remove local for non-blues or reduce directional scan range or temporarly block off gates ,automated gate sentries and whatever else you can think of.
The sov owner has to have advantage in the sov he fought for .
The bears would leave. Thats a good thing.
The cat and mouse play without local would be pretty attractive to a different set of players.
The sov holders alreasy have the advantage of all their equipment and reinforcements being nearby.
Looks over at wormholes
Yeah. That Cat and Mouse game without local is just attracting folks in droves, right? We should Totally do that everywhere…
Wormholes are pretty hard to live in.
WH’s =/= null without local.
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Infact, it was supposed to be so difficult that no one was expected to live there. But you know no-local is so popular that people still live there.
Looks over at wormholes
Yeah. That Cat and Mouse game without local is just attracting folks in droves, right? We should Totally do that everywhere…
You realize that carebearing in nullsec is supposed to be hard, right? That you aren’t supposed to be able to farm the most profitable content in the game at maximum ISK per hour with zero risk? If the people who can’t cope with the loss of 100% safety flee back to highsec nothing of value is lost.
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It’s not 100% safe anyways
When it becomes zero risk you will have a point.
It already did. The risk level for even a minimally competent player is effectively zero. If you warp back to a station every time a non-blue player appears in local it is virtually impossible to lose a ship. The time required to enter warp is less than the time required for the potential threat to determine your location, warp to you, get a lock, and apply warp disruption. NPC warp disruption is usually weak and easily destroyed, leaving only a brief window (if any at all) where you are even theoretically vulnerable to PvP threats.
Still carriers and nullsec ratters die everyday, maybe they are just stupid but it shows its not that safe.