Its not that complicated.
Eject ammo from cargo.
Forms a crate in space.
Ship in need of ammo picks up as much as it needs.
I know how it works. But in the end it boils down to: What ships do we get in? And the answer could be āLetās just get out in T1 BS and kill suff until they drop heavy on usā a bit more often. Logi is in cruisers anyway and repairs BS/BC and (T3) Cruisers alike. So when I slow them down by using Battleships that is enough of a backdraw. The ammo-train hazzle doesnāt add anything. It isnāt even a good kill for the others.
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So what, specifically, do you want changed on BS?
Even after the patch more cargo bay. Or a small ammo bay, that would be even better.
Cargo buff happened.
As I said, for ammo, run a Hoarder.
A single Hoarder has insane capacity as an ammo provider.
What else do you want?
HACs, HIC, and Command ships would like a word with you.
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Thatās my quote, not Beastās.
HACS have nowhere near the dps/ehp of a T1 Battleship.
We are talking large modules vs mediums.
Command BCs are a very long train, and still far short of BS ehp/dps.
HIC? Lol, thats bubbles. Nothing to do with BS.
Are you one of those guys that skipped Cruisers/BC, straight to BS for L4 farming, and dont know anything else?
āCCP, plz buff BS, cos I never skilled into Cruisers/BC!ā
HAM nighthawk with passive shield Regen can reach 800 dps with 300+ ehp, and pretty sure the damnation (that the Amarr one I think) can get near 1 mil passive fit with utility and links.
Pretty sure the gallente one can get absurd tank (not use of dps) and the demose (whatever itās called) has a insane local rep that will laugh at a t1ās dps.
But on a side note, Iām surprised you didnāt look at zkill as thatās what most people do. And if you do, youāll know I have more losses and kills in things cruiser and down.
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If you think that is good, then use it for your roams.
Im not going to bother to compare that to BS stats, as its your argument.
Balance pass on them is what is needed as a whole.
I would consider recent changes more complete if CCP rolled back warp speed nerf to battleships that no one wanted nor no one ever stated as needed ever.
If not all the way back to 3.0 au base I think 2.2 base for t1 and 2.5 for marauders and such wouldnāt make them best cruisers on a server aka Machariels but it would remove a fall straight in to depression every time i sit in one and try to do more than a one gate jump.
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Yes, it seriously affects quality of life, for no particularly good reason in my book.
For whom?
Players that didnt skill into Cruiser/BC trees?
I can fly an almost perfect Sleipnir, yet still my dps/ehp is less than even a mediocre skilled T1 BS pilot.
Iām interested in the BB fits that you use that have great dps/ehp, best Iāve ever done is with a Raven at almost 1k dps and around 100k ehp.
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For people who fly battleships, or want to fly battleships but donāt because of quality of life issues.
I donāt see what C/BC has to do with anything - we are talking BS. But for the record, Iām am trained into all T1 C/BC.
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What specifically do you mean by this?
You dont see that the cascade between ship classes is formative in EVE?
I was agreeing with another poster that BS pilots are affected by quality of life issues - for instance the warp speed nerf they were hit with. Here is a quote from that poster:
It was an asinine nerf that afflicts BS pilots with serious quality of life issues for no particularly good reason.
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Explain/elaborate please.
Are you aware that battleships warp very slowly? Are you aware that this used to not be the case, i.e. they were nerfed?
Battleships warp slowly, making using them or going anywhere in them a chore and a grind. It also causes people to ban them from their fleets because the other ships (cruisers etc) donāt want to wait on the slow-as-molasseses battleships.
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Just remove all capitals. Problem solved.
Better/cheaper BS-sized logi would be an other angle for that problem. Nestors should get some brothers. At least anyone but the scouts and perhaps the Electronic Warfare dudes would be slow warping high hp ships then.
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