Another ‘stop highsec miner ganking’ thread.Do you know why ccp added those npc miners and the fob patrolling gank npcs?To get your sorry pathetic ass out of highsec.
Sure, as always if someone comes with a completely stupid idea all the people who object just “hate change”. You are only fooling yourself if you think that ist the reason.
In reality your idea is one of the worst I have ever seen, and that just sais a lot.
You propose to remove a seriously big branch of gameplay, does not matter if you like it or not, and try to replace it with AFK gameplay. Sorry, but if you want to change something to improve the game then at least make sure that gameplay is enhanced and not completely removed.
It seams you completely forgot that this is a game centered around conflict and spaceship explosions. It’s not a game about a super healthy econom or fair ore mining.
Your idea removes conflict, it removes gameplay, it adds AFK income, it adds more instanced gameplay by expanding on PI.
First of All,
Most importantly you have to understand the objective of the game is to get people to play more, and for longer periods. The key word here is play. People are not loyal to games they afk in, they will drop them like a b ad habbit.
Afk Mining and Afk Anything is Highly destructive to the game. I am telling you this as a designer with near two decades of experience in working on games (and doing balance, content creation, and game theory).
Next,
I think your idea is going in the right direction to some degree. I have purposed the idea of players moving asteroids around like they do planets in the pi - planetary inspection mode. However, I do not support anything like PI for mining (even pi is dreadfully dull).
The idea of looking at the rock, spinning it, mining a place then moving to another and mining is a good approach at solving mining issues. I have also considered the idea of something that has nothing to do with the asteroids, like team related systems which cause you to interact with other ships in the fleet, and if you click something at the right time you gain a mining bonus, or dont receive a mining reduction for missing.
Mining Needs to be fixed to
- Absolutely demand your attention, or no ore from mining will be acquired.
- Have a skill level to it, where as you get better you improve your rates just by clicking, or interacting fast enough.
- Should be random / rng’d in some way to a MINOR degree so it does not grow old over time.
Im not sure if beams are still the way to go with this, though i’d fundamentally like to change mining into something like scanning various veins on one asteroid, and picking one to mine, and skill based drawing interaction giving you mining skill to mine the vein, using veldspar as the filler when you screw up.
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I have better idea: mining laser must have a battle script, mining extractor must have a battle crystal. CODE said “we want pvp”. So, when CODE comes to the belt, miners must have a possibility to switch their harmless civilian lasers to deadly doomsday weapons and fire everything! P.S. Minmatar faction lasers must have veldspair-burst-autocannons. 
Mining minigame per laser activation on a rock/ice/gas.
Make it happen.
How will you do a mining minigame for drone mining like rorquals?
By the time a venture switched scripts, the pilot would be in a pod.
–Gadget goes boom
I just wanted to add, that this thread is so bad, that:
- the op should delete his text.
- the ISD schould delete the topic.
- then op should apologize for it in a long post for what he has done.
- then he should biomass his character.
- then he should create a new character and apologize again.
- then he should biomaas this character too, because the post was so bad that its stench followed him bejond death to his new clone
- And finally, CCP should rollback the forum DB and delete the backups so we can all pretend this never happened.
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Go on, tell us how you really feel.
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It would ruin the game for many. Without miners and people doing pve there would be no easy roams. Just fleet on fleet action 23/7 and nobody wants that. Eve needs more people in space not less.
You know…I don’t think Ima likes the idea expressed in the OP…just a feeling I have…
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best we do it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure 
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I’d say something mean but I can’t, does no good, like yelling at a tree, but for some reason you still haven’t added to any ideals to improve mining, other then your against it, sheesh.
I am a little late but I moved this topic to it’s proper place.
~Buldath
In the (snooby voice), grabage.
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A suggestion to fix mining would be to turn mining into a mini game where you have to constantly adjust the lasers to get any extraction from the asteroids.
Oh Lord, that wouldn’t work, there’s a bot that can overcome that, the code used for eve is easily bot friendly and this mini “game” to keep people non AFK won’t work without serious buffs to get max yields and people would go ape over any buff to mining, besides if it becomes that I assure you people will unsubscribe faster then anything, it adds no incentive to work harder for basic items in game, just a turn off, I myself would just unsubscribe and play for free because there’s no point in doing my favorite things if they are a chore, it’s a game not my 2nd job.
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People like to mine, people like to gank and your solution is to get rid of both, nice one…
Not quite correct
And I never posted that ‘ganking’ to be eliminated, how you come to that conclusion can only mean you read what you did with an expectation that you had already formulated in your mind, Which is why I already knew, it is not your fault, the human mind will perceive that which it is biased towards.
Unfortunately, eve players are too invested in being against mining in any form, a strange hate the makes no sense to me.
It makes sense if you consider that some consider direct ship pvp the pinnacle of the Eve experience. Mining is not pvp and is therefore anathema. Plus mining in eve is like the worst activity ever. I would rather run around the starter zone of an unnamed popular mmo and mine copper bars than mine in eve.