We, the participants of the pirate factional wars, unanimously inform you that we are tired of the incessant killing of our soldiers by multi-windowed Awoxers!
Judge for yourself. If in the real world, a soldier kills his allied militia - what will the leadership do with him? Just worsen the attitude towards him and that’s it? This is nonsense! He deserves the death penalty!
We have no problem with neutral capsuleers, we know that they are enemies and act accordingly. But if the enemy looks like a friend - what should we do? This is mean, unfair, and must be severely punished!
We cannot cope with the problem on our own - we are playing against multiboxers.
As measures to combat such horrific behavior of players (multiboxers), we offer the following solutions:
Increase the drop in relations between the capsuleer and the militia (0.5+ losses) >>> In real life, relations are completely 100% ruined.
Add a loss of relations between the militia and the capsuleer-awoxer corporation >>> A friend of my enemy is my enemy.
Add a timer icon to the capsuleer “Awoxer” for at least 1-2 hours (preferably a day). So the militia will understand who is next to us, and we will be able to make appropriate notes on the player.
I repeat, we are forced to ask for your help and intervention, since we are not able to solve the problem ourselves, please help us!
p.s. I personally have witnessed more than once disappointed FW players who left the militia, and perhaps the game Eve itself.
Doesn’t your militia have some kind of communication system? I mean, you know who they are, do you? Set them red, shoot them on sight? Tell all other militia corps to do the same, so whereever they go, they get instantly reported in your militia intel and hunted down by nearby militia pilots? Take it as a challenge, no?
These multi-boxed mining fleets must be stopped. These multi-boxed Homefront fleets must be stopped. These multi-boxed Haven ratting fleets must be stopped. You see a pattern forming here? Faction warfare isn’t the only area of the game that has multi-boxers…
But you said they aren’t your own militia, they are enemies in disguise! They are just wearing “your” uniforms and banners to confuse your members and backstab them. You definitely should want to kill them.
As a side note, anyone who brings real-life concepts into a video game that is placed thousands of years in the future in a fantasy setting, probably doesn’t need to be playing video games…
EVE is a military themed game. Players love this game for this reason. Don’t confuse the game with real life, this is just an example. Thanks for your opinion!
I don’t understand. They seem to do it all day long and still are in “your militia”, so the standing loss can’t be that high. You will gain a lot more standing by flying missions or do plexes uninterrupted from those awoxers than the tiny bit you are losing from blowing them up, no?
For me there is no reason to loose even a tiny stands. Why should I do that? Becides, I love my militia. All I need is a reasonable punishment for that kind of action, and be able to see, who is an Awoxer. In ideal way, there should be a mechanics wich be able to kick capsulers and even their corps from militia. All that had been written in my original message.
To protect you from the awoxers? Kill them before they kill you! If they lose enoug ships, they will go away.
Yeah but maybe others in the militias want to have the option to kill awoxers before they are killed themselves, and with your “punishment” you would hurt them for this “shooting first”. You punish those who want to fight for their militia so that you don’t have to fight. Thats… cowardice? Why should your militia support that?
Please, read the original message again, it looks like you missed the point. I can defend myself from awoxers, but I shouldn’t do that. Noone from our friendfull militia wants to kill awoxers, we are killing our enemies and doing PLEXes. “Kill them before they kill you!” - please, I’m trying (and not only me) to solve a serious gameplay problem, not a “child shootout”. Have you ever try to play FW? Pls, don’t aswer. And don’t be mad, I’m not aggressing with you. This turned into correspondence with you and condemnation of the fundamentals of the FW game, and this is not the purpose of my message. If you need communication, please welcome to our fw pal! 07
Why not? Militaries have used these tactics to hit their enemies at all times. Why do you want to prevent people from doing it in an EVE military conflict? You joined a Faction “War” right? Isn’t that all about shooting? Why do you call it a “childs shootout” then?
I am not mad, I am confused why you seem to join a “War” but don’t want to “shoot” at people trying to kill you? I don’t get this “I don’t want to lose a tiny bit of standing” thingy, why is it that important, especially if you gain much more standing much faster from participating actively than you would lose from killing some awoxer every now and then? I have read your first post and I don’t get what the “fundamental gameplay problem” is that you can’t simply solve with your guns?
Our conversation went completely in the wrong direction. All answers to your questions are indicated in the original message. For extensive discussion of opinions, please use other places, thank you! 07
An easy design fix I proposed directly to CCP Swift regarding multiboxing in FW space:
Split the Small to Large plexes into multi-rooms with more than one objective per room to complete the site. The idea is to force multiboxers to divide their fleet by design, while making them more attractive to engage as pvp content for solo and small gangs.
A somewhat fix for awoxing itself would be the standings hit being so huge that the awoxing mboxer is practically forced to constantly make new characters if he chooses to pop someone from his own faction.
You can’t multibox Alpha accounts…And Im sure many have way too much money to burn and would still inject new chars into Omegas, but it would still be much more of a hassle than it currently is, if for every friendly you pop, you instantly drop say 5 mboxed chars from FW due to standings hit … Once it suddenly becomes tedious and a complete waste of money, people will stop. CCP said they are working on the issue regardless, so they might have another idea in mind, but FW awoxing will stop sooner or later.
