Multiboxing discussion

[quote="Xeux, post:60, topic:386065, full:true, username:Xeux”]
Yes, having an unfamiliar name in local can truly be hyper-mega-ultra oppressive. I mean, unless they are docked. In that case it is totally fine.
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true story
in my times in null i meet a lot of people that log in in coms to ask
“hey , it’s ok to log in now?”
“na man , there is lots of pirates”

AKA a cloaky heron on local

Maybe I am wrong to blame CCP. Maybe it is the players that ruined this game.

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[quote="Xeux, post:62, topic:386065, full:true, username:Xeux”]
Maybe I am wrong to blame CCP. Maybe it is the players that ruined this game.
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don’t be so hard with yourself
they both do…

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Oh. So I assume you have actual proof he’s cheating.

Right?

I saw a homeless guy multiboxing the other day. He had this refrigerator box and a couple others stacked up with some duct tape like a little two-story carboard house. It was quite impressive…

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Cowards are near-sighted. How can a PvP game have so many risk-adverse souls subscribing? I’m gonna make them PROVE that this cloaky ship is an actual threat…and not just a failed form of intimidation. Null is the only safe space left. Long live Null Sec!!!

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If it is ganker then he is cheating for sure.

If it is a miner then he is legit.

Simple as that.

I see the other side of the coin. It should be equal but you’re implying that it’s not. What are you basing this assertion on?

It’s because it was abused at scale. During the peak some people were running several hundred alts all at once, it got pretty crazy. Kinda like how when wardeccers were affecting tens of thousands of people they got nuked, and now gankers are similarly getting nuked, it’s about individual impact.

This is true. The videos are made manually for “proof” but broadcasting is used for day to day ganks.

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What will they go after next? Mouse travel speed? High dpi mice?

I don’t see EAC running on here, so count your blessings. While EAC is a good tool, it is very bad with false positives and there is nothing quite like getting a IP/HWID ban on your system from an automated system.

Unless I am mistaken, you are allowed to play 1 omega and 1 alpha at the same time… yet they don’t call it multi-boxing. The alpha only players call it PAY to WIN. CCP is basically saying by this alone, pay us money and we will allow you to run 2 at once. I have hard enough time keeping my attention on just the one I can’t imagine flipping about from clone to clone. What you do on your system, really doesn’t matter to me. Apparently it matters to CCP, unless you paid them this month.

You are indeed mistaken. If you’re playing on an Alpha, you’re not (legally) allowed to play simultaneously on another account of any type - Alpha, Omega, or your “brother’s account on your other PC”.

And if you could, it would be called multi-boxing.

You can legally play as many Omega accounts as you want. And yes, CCP is saying “pay us more money and you can run more accounts simultaneously”. Which is perfectly legit from the business sense, but may have been a poor direction to take EVE’s monetization in, long term.

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Thanks for the correction Kezrai Charzai.

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I want to throw in my opinion about multiboxing. I firmly hate multiboxing is allowed in eve.

Among the reasons why are:

  1. Inflated amount of miners causes ore price to be lower because multiboxing increases supply. Which means solo miners currently are basically unfairly penalised.
  2. Multiboxing allowed mind numbing mechanics to still proliferate for example lighting cynos. Lighting cynos is boring for a dedicated person, but to ccp is ok cause multiboxing gonna solve this. Which means a player that want to play fairly as a single toon in a cap is unfairly disadvantaged.
  3. Multiboxing allows eyes everywhere 24/7. What’s there to be scared of gating your marshal when you can scout ahead in a cheapo frig n ensure your marshal does not fall into a trap. Denying content for all.
  4. In reality eve requires a double sub to fully play it. That’s like 40usd? Freaking expensive.
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I don’t see the problem.

It takes skill to effectively run multiple characters at once.

People should be allowed to run as many characters as their skill allows.

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Multi-boxing miners are still solo miners. They just have more accounts than you… :wink:

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I doubt that the amount of buying power of the ore a solo player mines is significantly affected by multiboxing. Yes, the amount of effort per ore increases and so does the price, but everything else will be more expensive too.

Removing cyno alts would make the playerbase riot tbh. It basically bricks all JFs and by extension most large-scale logistical efforts.

Eve? Fair? Ha!

The only reasonable point you’ve made, but I don’t think it’s worth ejecting the baby out of the airlock along with the bathwater. Even then, people will use their shiny toys less to avoid risk and how are you going to prove that it’s an alt and not a friend anyway?

Also, gating a marshal is for idiots. Jump drive, bro.

No it doesn’t.

But for that you need to multibox :smiley:

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I saw a Mammoth parked in an asteroid belt mining. This was in 1.0 high security. The player was was obviously AFK, it would take an incredible amount of time to fill it with one laser. The only time you need to babysit the miner is when NPC rats can kill you or you are in the flight path of other players. I don’t see a high level of skill required at all by a common multiboxer.

Even 0.4 sec would work with a venture, shields, and drones. They would just need timers set on a cell phone or webpage to alert them when the miner is full. Technically speaking this rule would allow them to run an army with the proper hardware at their disposal.

Basically CCP says you can only multibox using Omegas, which is sad in my opinion. The rule should be no multiboxing allowed at all.

I do. Your example is evidence of this.

If the multiboxer could do more than multibox an AFK Mammoth in a 1.0, they certainly would be doing so. Clearly, they didn’t feel capable of doing more than that, which confirms that there is a skill requirement for effective multiboxing.

Are you aware some people multibox faction titans?