hey man
so i build mine to be worth less!!!
My T3D was cheaper!!! Gf, i enjoyed it.
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ye though i thought the legion was with you at first lol
Check my kms. I purposefully drove an Orca into a nullcamp just to burn a billion.
They were real nice about it too.
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Sounds like you need to find better roaming space mate, finding great enemies that understand what a gf is, is pretty rare these days thou.
What are you on about. Literally everyone in eve engages in pvp weather they intended to or not.
You mined that rock? You just took it from everyone else, sold the ore? you just devalued it for everyone else selling. Just ran that sight? No one else can. Bought something with the bounty? Now everyone elseās isk is worth less. Everything you do in eve is competing with the rest of the players
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I think we covered most of lowsec in the 5/6 hours, except for you know the edges like molden heath or arida going up to solitude. It was AUTZ though which is seriously hard to find anyone to do anything with.
Iāll do roaming again no problem it was just slightly disappointing the fights we had.
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These two quotes define the problem, in my opinion. People keep talking about āthe old daysā of EVE, but they donāt seem to get that āthe old daysā have moved on and the entire environment it existed in has vanished.
There is no more ecosystem of roamers and hunters and miners and targets, all trying to find different niches and exploring different risks and mixing it up. Now you have 25% of the online population botting and programmed to run at any disturbance, 60% of the population who know exactly what they are doing, are fitted out for it, have the tools to minimize risk, and are opportunistically taking only the risks that have maximum payoff for minimum loss. Mixed with 10% of bored players willing to do anything to scare up a little entertainment (what Excaliburs was doing), and 5% of actual new players who are pretty much just cannon fodder for everyone else.
That is a mature, uneventful, unexciting system that is starting to rot from the core. CCP needs to toss in some tools to mix things up and create frequent action, not simply hit the news with a bigass battle once per quarter.
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Mining lasers that can target modules!
Grenades you can prime and put in a can along with some juicy loot!
Impalement spikes which you can put corpses on!
Fedos!
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Itās not so much about the pvp engagement in itself that matters,
But more the process and decisions leading up to it.
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The beauty with eve is: you can play the game however you want no matter what anyone else says. Sure prob 99% of the people will tell you āoh its all about pvpā but i for myself for example, i have a complete different oppinion on that. Sure there might be alot of pvp happening and sure the mindgames around pvp might be fun but is pvp the only thing you can do in eve because of it? not really.
I actually think, eve pvp is borderline boring. And i dont really care to much about other oppinions. You can throw 100 People at me to say that pressing jump when the fc says ājumpā and press f1 when the fc says āattack attackā is SO engaging and funā¦ to me i never saw pvp that dull and boring as in eve in any game. And i m talking about the actual āactā of pvp not all the stuff around it like setting it up and all that, because that doesnt matter. Its like an excuse almost to me. Imagine someone announces a BIG tournament in real life about the best of the best competing against each other and people spy on the others and try to see what pants they wear and you make them think that youre super weak just because mindgames and all that might be super funā¦ but then the tournament starts and you are likeā¦
āwait a moment, they havent said what kind of tournament it actually is?ā
and then it starts and its āwho can stare at the blank wall without blinking with their eyes for the longest durationā tournamentā¦ so its great now because the preparation was fun? i guess in rl everyone would ask for a refund.
To me. eve is like a social experiment, a mimic of some things that happen in the real world and experimenting with how things could go other ways. it is a sandboxā¦ guess what real life is a sandbox tooā¦does that mean that in real life, we all just kill each other just becauseā¦reasons?
You can have complete different goals and stick to them. might it be āmaking friendsā , or turn an empty system into something that people can live in with some infrastructure, or helping other people, trading (actually i think trading is way more fun as an pvp activity as real pvpā¦ i get so much more thrilled if i spot a killer deal on system and 2 jumps out i m likeā¦pls let no other snack it before me" or earlier today i bought an orca in low sec for like 230mil under sell value and it was thrilling to fly her out.
I love eve politcs, i love reading about it, be around itā¦but that doesnt mean i need to be IN THE FIGHT. Its no different to real life. You might be interested in politics and stuff, but does that mean you want to be a politician or a soldier oder something like that? no. you probly just want to be you living in the world and observe whats happening around you.
i actually think that playing and enjoying eveā¦ like a life sim, and being a good guy can be way more challenging in a universe where everyone is just TRIGGERFINGER SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT ask questions later.
if i feel like just blindly shooting at stuffā¦ i ll just play a different game really. where you also have preperation and strategy before the game even starts and practice and try to learn the strenghts of your opponent and his weaknessesā¦ but then the actual āactā of pvpā¦ is engaging and skill based aswell.
there is actually a quote you hear quite a lot by people playing competitive games who know eve and have played eveā¦ its like āif youre are to bad, too slow or you have reaction times of a old granny walking across the street or youre color blind or you only have 1 arm or whatever, then you ll just play eveā while in other pvp games you re just out if you dont perform or practice every day to keep your muscle memory up just like in real sports for example. eve is likeā¦ yeah my granny could actually play eveā¦ she can hold a mouse.
If you dont like PvP why dont you instead talk about what you do like?
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Me personally, would gladly give everyone a fight they wantā¦ if isk werent the issue. If I need to spent 1/3, 1/2 ? of my all isk for a ship to rival the other players bling ship, and knowing that making those isk back will take much time, then Iām sorry Iām not giving you the fight you seek.
Problem is that in order to comfortably pvp , player needs to establish isk making engine to support pvp effort . That takes time, commitment, knowledge and investment.
For new players this is no fun.
Especially when more experienced players that have all that in line constantly try to prevent newer players from making enough isk so they can pvp without fear of isk bankrupcy. Yes, Iām talking of HiSec careber harrasers. Canāt you people see that ? This is what those poor bastards in HiSec are trying to do: start making enough isk to be able to throw themselves into ārealā gameplay, thus giving youall the content you seek. So let them do that. Itās in your best intrest.
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None of this is true. You can pvp just fine in cheap ships, frigates, destroyers, the odd cruiser. It works fine and you can get wins just fine.
Hereās a good example of flying just basic ships and killing all kinds of expensive targets. All solo.
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What are you doing for activity?
A cheap cruiser is less than 10m isk these days, and fit right still stands a smell against a lot of ships.
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Posting cherry picked edited clips of all the āwinsā of someone who clearly has more experience than he shows is not convincing for me.
Reality is vastly different.
In order to win a fight in such ācheapā ship you have to loose 3 maybe 4. Then maybe, and only maybe you get lucky.
Show all uncut video of how he/she got there, not only the end result.
You seem to think losing some ships is a failure.
Why is this?
Do you think we should all have green kbs?
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So?
It invalidates your āI canāt pay for pvp shipsā excuse. You can, whatās LACKING is knowledge, experience and the will to do so. So if you donāt want to pvp (because youāre scared of not winning) then just say so, donāt come up with a silly excuse.
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I wouldnāt waste my time with folks like him. They will never accept responsibility for their own gameplay and will desperately look for any and all possible excuse so that they can cry that PvP is unfair.
The worst part is their attitude and mindset. Theyāre so stuck up on the idea of making ISK in game, that they donāt want to participate in PvP. Because to them, PvP means you lose money (even if you donāt die)." Why spend an hour roaming and getting a kill when you could be mining Veldspar and make a whole 5 million ISK in that same hour?!" is the type of mindset youāre fighting against.
Nothing you say can convince them otherwise. In my 5 years of EVE experience, people like him are a lost cause and will never amount to anything. The problem comes from an internal mindset, and showing videos or providing fits or trying to explain how cheap and simple PvP can be done canāt help them.
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