The question was not actually to deal with them in terms of getting your stuff in and out of the station, what you have suggested works, and you need to add a few frills to it, such a bookmark at 0 on the station so you can instant dock rather than come in outside of the docking ring from Ashab which is what they focus on. And of course you have an instra undock, however they have positioned bumpers to block you and you have to be on the ball with that decent instra undock.
The question was how would you deal with them as an AG, in other words what would you do to stop them from ganking as an AG. This question was asked because the player above @Jerry_Falcone decided that AG were a load of salty little bitches. So I gave him a problem that exists here and now and asked him how to deal with it as an AG player. And he failed miserably. You too have failed because you answered the wrong question.
Oh and Knowledgeminer failed too as he suggested that one needs to whine about it to CCP and then made an excuse about it not being the case. The very type of thing that he said got him angry and made him lose all self control…
Well I’m not really interested in AG itself, I’m just here to get the job done.
If I had to, electronic warfare would be a start, plus more ships than them, bigger guns/missiles, better range. Of course if you have a budget things get more difficult, but u get nothing in eve without effort.
But in the end you are just giving them content, if you really want to AG then denial of content is the only valid stategy because content is what they value most.
So why respond to the question then? The question was what would you do as an AG to stop the 14 Tornado gankers. As in stopping them, not avoiding them.
You are missing the obvious, they are not criminals in terms of security status and they shoot and go criminal and doing anything to them after they have shot is meaningless. What effort do you need to do to stop them? You have failed to answer the question.
That is one method, so make sure no one trades out of Amarr, not going to happen unless the game population reduces significantly.
“Going AG chat channel” in this case would have been as follows:
I would politely explain first why disruption attempts on 1-shot ganking Tornados is pointless, and how the only options to deal with them are bumping, KRs, or loot denial.
If, after having politely explained that already, the AG still insists that the jamming or disruption he wants to do has any effect because he witnessed the ganker fail while he was present some time he tried it, I would tell him that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and how that stuff works again.
Only if he would reply to that with some ■■■■■■■■, would I then start to be abrasive to him…
You’re of course outright lying, like you always do, yes, but that’s not why I’m mostly ignoring all this Amarr Tornado ganking crap. It’s because it’s completely off-topic here. You cannot go to any thread you want, try to turn it into something else entirely different, and then pretend that the OP should cooperate with you doing that…
At last. Though one would have to do a lot more tactical work to actually use those KR’s. Saying KR’s on people who can dock up immediately is not a great answer. Can I assume that the Bumping was one method to throw off the shot and also to enable the kill right to work its magic?
Loot denial is the best, but especially difficult on a station because it comes down to who can scoop fastest and you can not kill his looter unless he screws up on the docking ring. Personally I think the best thing to do is have about ten people ready to scoop the loot and laugh every time they do it.
That was an opinion, not a lie.
The other guy started to go off on AG whining and I asked him what would he do, he was off topic.
Which part of “try to turn it into something else entirely different, and then pretend that the OP should cooperate with you doing that” did you not understand?
Whats not to understand? Im a nice guy and i care about other people. I thought it was simple.
I dont find a problem with caring about your reputation, even on a video game. Im a nice guy in real life, but im also a nice guy in this video game, and I dont see a problem with that. Especially with EVE, where we push the ideal that reputation does in fact matter in this game, and that things like Trust, are important and vital.
If the screenshot you posted from Knowledgeminers post is the extent of the “Hate” you seem to get, then i dont see a big problem with it. I get worse as a Code agent from gank victims. Far worse. I would get banned if i posted those things here on this forums.
I dont find a problem with taking this game seriously, though. I have a problem with other people taking this game seriously, while bashing people for taking the game seriously.
There is nothing wrong with being invested and caring about yourself and other people in a video game.
Yes it did, I think you just wanted to tell me how good you were at evading them.
So why did you jump in on the question that you have no clue on at all.
But now that you have suggested that one shoots them first, are you going to war dec them if they can be war decked, are you going to do a criminal act, do you intend to do this on your main? Or do you have a specific character trained up that has the required skills to one shot a Tornado before he can dock and of course the ISK to pay for it, who will not be impacted by a kill right. Such a simple reply shoot them first, but full of issues. I knew you were a one line wonder!
Are you going to use a KR, and how will you deal with him just docking and wasting your ISK?
What I have found is that so many people have no clue how to AG, and seem to think you can just waltz up and shoot like that no issue, it is truly laughable to see. Eve is a complicated game you know…
Is that an admission that youre being a hypocrite by claiming not to care, all the while posting huge walls of texts and spending what i bet is hours on the internet arguing to other people?
Maybe you should stop taking this forums game too seriously.
That was all that your guff of feel good rubbish was worth, now I get some mental help babble in a video I will definitely never click on, all to make you feel good about your pathetic posting which is nothing more than an off topic delusional virtue signal to other ganker fan boyz that you stuck it to good old Dracvlad with yet another incorrect mental health diagnosis that you losers have no right or ability to even do. What a loser…
Will knowledgeminer come in and tell you it is off topic in some high and mighty voice of reason and common sense. I think not…
Wow, you sound really bitter and angry. Aggressive, even.
You could be talking to a mirror and no one here would argue with you.
Because it wasnt off topic, but you sorta made it off topic by saying “Let me bring up some nonsense about a safe space because I cant handle this discussion anymore but dont want to admit i was wrong”.
Oh, and im sorry, i didnt know you were afraid youtube would give you viruses or something. Here, a GIF version.
