Nope, if you do your way newbies will continue to quit.
Duh, of course some newbies quit. It’s normal in ANY game.
However giving them too much and removing what actually makes EVE unique will result in poor retention rates beyond the first month.
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Duh, of course some newbies quit. It’s normal in ANY game.
However giving them too much and removing what actually makes EVE unique will result in poor retention rates beyond the first month.
Nope, back in the day poor retention was due to unlimited wardecs and too much time to catch up to veterans. Now that wars are tied with structures, and skill injectors exist, newbies can enjoy the game and begin to move into the different pvp content when they are fat in sp, isk, and eagerness, instead of being blown up on their first day and quitting.
Citation needed.
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I cite eve history
EVE history shows massive population rises for most of the time period of unrestricted wars. hack it shows population rises when concord could be tanked and killed.
So… citing EVE history says you want unrestricted wars and tankable and killable concord.
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EVE history shows massive population rises for most of the time period of unrestricted wars. hack it shows population rises when concord could be tanked and killed.
So… citing EVE history says you want unrestricted wars and tankable and killable concord.
Nope, CCP said tens of thousands of players left the game because of wars, hence why they changed it. And weak concord means anyone who hates pvp get’s destroyed and quits the game, also why CCP changed concord.
You have low/null/wh space for what you want, highsec is and should remain the land for the players who are starting out, building strength for invasion into the pvp zones, or who hate pvp and want to avoid it as much as possible.
Gonna need a citation on that quote.
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Gonna need a citation on that quote.
Go look it up, it was done at an EVE fanfest
Not how this works. You say CCP said it, you’ll have to be the one to show me where they said it.
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Not how this works. You say CCP said it, you’ll have to be the one to show me where they said it.
Nope, normally I would but you have always been rude to me on the forums, if you doubt it go look it up for yourself.
Burden of proof ccp says is on you. I had to show proof ccp says they are refunding fanfest, so you need to show proof of what you posted.
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Burden of proof ccp says is on you. I had to show proof ccp says they are refunding fanfest, so you need to show proof of what you posted.
Nope, go look it up
Look what up, what burden of proof means, ccp’s quote, which fanfest. Tell me
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Jesus wept. You’re an insult to humanity.
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No they didn’t.
They said corps that were wardecced often showed a downturn in activity even after the war ended.
Note the key difference there, corps.
They said nothing about player accounts.
Now, I’m not saying wars should be unrestricted, but you were attempting to appeal to EVE history to support you when actually statistically history supports those who want unrestricted wars and tankable Concord.
So if you actually want to support your claims you are going to have to use real logic, not just an erroneous appeal to authority.
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So angry lol 
Tens of thousands left the game, oh just log out for 2 weeks turns into this game is bad I’m not returning. Of course you know that and like it.
Now, I’m not saying wars should be unrestricted
Then you should be on my side.
So if you actually want to support your claims you are going to have to use real logic, not just an erroneous appeal to authority.
I use great logic 
No, because your side destroys what makes EVE actually EVE and not just failed WoW clone 59.
There is a reason I don’t get insulted like you do on the forums despite mainly advocating for PvE and high sec based things. It’s because I’m actually aware of the ecosystem of EVE and am not out to destroy it purely for my own benefit.
And no, your logic is on par with a two your old who just learnt to say “Gimme”.
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And weak concord means anyone who hates pvp get’s destroyed and quits the game, also why CCP changed concord.
Yes, which is how it should be! Players who don’t belong in EVE quit, but the other half of it is that the sort of player who wants a game of warfare and competitive capitalism loves EVE and subscribes for years. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Have you never heard of the concept that trying to appeal to everyone is a guarantee that you will appeal to nobody?
You have low/null/wh space for what you want, highsec is and should remain the land for the players who are starting out
Then why do you keep demanding endgame-level income and whining that anything less than maximum nullsec-level ISK/hour is a “nerf” to highsec? Why does the newbie starter area need endgame-level income?
or who hate pvp and want to avoid it as much as possible.
Those people add nothing to EVE and do not belong here.
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