stop being a carebear and answer the question.
Is EvE a sandbox full loot PvP game, where one is expected to take personal responsibility for getting blown up or not?
Stop being a griefer and ask a question that makes sense
not a griefer, so ill break it down for you point by point
Is EvE a sandbox game?
Does it have full loot PVP capability?
Is it your responsibility to not get blown up?
No, it has no sand nor box
No, a portion of the loot is destroyed on ship destruction, except with some events
What do you mean with this
How is this wrong. Currently in hi sec we see retrievers with damage controls or bulkheads in lows. Also potentially hull rigs. This won’t exist anymore. All lows and rigs will be for mining yield.
Explain to me why anyone would use a damage control in high sec if they can’t be ganked.
Explain to me why someone would fly a procurer or a skiff in highsec if they can’t be ganked.
Then explain to me how this doesn’t make highsec less diverse.
It does. But not at the expense of breaking highsec. Low sec is a completely different issue and should have its own incentives. Killing ganking doesn’t improve low sec.
So everything needs a counter play. If someone in a corp that isn’t war decable rocks up to steal my moon I need to be able to be able to do something. Ganking is that something.
Not to mention how broken it is to have a 3bill ship in space in absolute safety. Are you actually being serious.
ok so according to you, players are not allowed to play the game how ever they wish within the frame of the mechanics?
But your loot is gone, you do not have it…Full Loot PvP.
what do you think I mean, to clarify …at any time in any activity.
They wont, and how is this a massive problem or whatever.
Improving low sec and killing ganking would improve low sec, duh.
Mine the moon faster, change the timing.
Broken? What exactly would be broken. What is broken is being able to kill a 3B ship with 15M worth of catalysts.
You said it, within the frame of the mechanics. So by definition this excludes this ‘sandbox’ idea.
I dont see the point of saying that
if someone always mines on others moons, this does not work…you can scout a moon, and with practice it becomes easy to predict its Frack timing.
So,
you are not allowed to mine whenever you wish?
not allowed to just travel and explore how you wish?
not allowed to go into anoms whenever you wish?
not allowed to run a mission when ever you wish?
not allowed to do a myriad of things whenever you wish?
is that what you are saying?
Well then mining a moon that you do not have the right to (lets say by being in the corp or a blue to this corp) could give you a suspect timer. Problem solved, you can still kill whoever mines your stuff but they can mine it if nobody is here to defend it.
the point is all Your loot dropped for someone to grab if they wanted it…does not matter if some of it was vaporized…the point is ALL your stuff is gone when blown up…you do not have it…hence a Full Loot PvP game.
Get to your point
Because it takes away meaningful choice.
As things stand the ship I chose to use for a given task matters. I need to weigh up risk and reward and decide what’s best for me.
As things stand how I fit that ship matters. I need to decide if I go balls to the wall for max return or whether I fit to make myself less of a target.
The decision I make matters and will have consequences in space.
That’s what attracted me to eve in the first place. To me it is Eve.
What you are proposing takes that away. The ship doesn’t matter. The fit doesn’t matter. Nobody can die and choice is meaningless and there are zero consequences. It takes everything that is good and unique about eve in my mind and throws it out in favour of being just another Grindy mmo.
awesome, now we suspect bait the moon owner…
Oh wait, you call that greifing…
Go play in low sec, basically the same as high sec is.
You can do that, how would that be griefing. They can take cheap catalysts and try and blow up the illegal miners and if they were baited the only lost a few cheap catalysts. Basically the same as it is right now.
Ummmm yeah. Just the same…………….
it should be self evident…
you said EvE was not a sandbox game
oh no it would not be the same…
Orcas, Bowheads…
T3 cruisers, Marauders…hell full out PvP combat Orca’s would do it.