Are you targeting me for harassment in an attempt to provoke an emotional response?
Oh, so now highsec players helpless trash?
Condescend much?
Well… aside from the tens of thousands of people who know who know and fear her… and all the players she creates content for… and all the people who think she’s ruining the game… and the forum warriors who feel compelled to point out that no one cares… but, besides that, no one cares.
Have they tried not sucking?
Have they tried speaking for themselves ?
Have they tried existing?
I looked at one great New Eden Pilot on that list, the solo kills where many of them was a Legion vs a T1 Destroyer.
Great pilots but ships outclassed and the same can be said shoot trash calm down pvp pro.
I think the only people who truly care about ganking are the forum people.
Your funny
You seem to be one the new for brains cowards that call themselves new players. This acct turns 14 next mo. You won’t be around in 14 yrs.
Even if you rule ganking avoidance out under some nonsense argument that it isn’t a counterplay there are still dozens of options which you can do.
@Shipwreck_Jones neither anyone else mentioned all of them because there are a few counterplay options which are extremely unfair against gankers and totally screws us. So it is in our best interest not to spread them public.
And just because you can’t think of anything you could do to win it doesn’t mean there isn’t anything you could do to win. That being said, your first unreasonable expectation is that if you are just one player, why should you ever be able to win against 5 players who came to gank you? How would that be balanced at all if you could just use a module and prevent them to hit you/kill them all yourself? You are constantly bragging about balance, but you fail to see that what you want to do is absolute imbalance.
So here is one of those dozen counterplay options, that you don’t see, for you: field a cloaked Loki on a grid. If you didn’t know artillery Loki can uncloak by the time they are still in warp and oneshot them one by one from perfect safety because he was cloaked in first place and gankers didn’t know he is there. Now, arty Loki does have a rather long reload so it is not 100% guaranteed you survive it depends on what ship you are mining in and if you fit any tank into it and how many gankers landed to kill you. But if they brought the exact number to kill you then if you kill one or two of them they will fail and you get your sweet win you so desperately want.
Alternatively you can field an ECM Blackbird on the grid (but if they see it they might decide to gank that first or use EECM scripts and say +1 more ganker to counter your counterplay).
This is the most straightforward counterplay that should cross every gank victim mind first when looking for a counterplay to gankers.
So why is nobody doing it then???
The answer to that is that anyone who actually uses brain will realize that if they will earn bigger profit if they field another mining alt instead of gank-protect alt. So they will field one more non combat alt to profit more and when they get ganked they scream how unfair it is and that there is no counterplay lol. Well just the hypocrite ones, most miners understands this and doesn’t care about getting ganked. They just take it as an ISK sink and jump into replacement ship and continue making their sweet ISKs.
Weak players like you will never be satisfied till the the option they dislike exists. They will keep finding new and new excuses why is it wrong. Developers have only two choices, ignore them or 100% cater to them which will then drive their opposition out of the game and eventually these players too.
I’ve witnessed this happen on my own Neverwinter Nights 1 server which I am running. And I knew from the very start how will this end up, but I still went that road just to make a point. So the issue was robbing ppls. First thing they found unfair was that they were robbed in (high-level) town when they afked. So entire pvp had to be disabled in all towns. The next they found unfair was that they could be robbed without the thief turning hostility against them. So I had to make it so that pickpicket skill is not working unless the thief expressed hostility beforehand. So thieves adapted and showed hostility to all players at login hence the players found it unfair they can be robbed without seeing the thief. So that had to go as well. Then they found unfair that they can be robbed while doing dungeons and thus not opted out for getting robbed. And next thing they found unfair was that the thief has no obligations to return them their items, ie. they started demanding some kind of automated system where every stolen item returns to owner after certain time. Eventually I disabled pickpocket entirely, it costs me few players who (role)played thieves, but at least the weak players stopped spamming discord with whining and anger and more suggestions how to make robbing more balanced. Eventually they left server as well because without the thief players the total number of players on my server went too low and the spiral of low player count started - players were like “um nobody plays here anymore so whats the point”. Which is why I am back in EVE btw . And I told them from the very start that “you just want the pickpocket to be removed from game” and they kept saying “nooo we just want to make it more balanced”. So after I removed it I had my sweet “I told you so” moment. At least that .
These players are just not honest. Even with themselves. Always sees the problem in the other players who were just better than them or game mechanics that allowed that player to be better than them. Never in themselves.
In the end all this forum spam and suggesting changes to make it more “balanced” is just your defense mechanism of how to deal with the fact that you utterly and completely failed.
One of your longest posts. Bingo. Eve is dying from boredom. Not boredom from lack of events, but boredom from lack of human interaction.
In a lot of cases I am not sure I can even credit people with failure because it implies they at least tried.
This sounds like angry hyperbole, but I do not know how I could call it differently when people will log off in preference to facing even the possibility of an actual problem, much less deal with one that presents itself.
Well it is:
It is just general meaningless drivel.
Like what, again meaningless drivel, I see this rubbish all the time.
You called it correctly, it is angry hyperbole.
So let us dissect what he did say as an example:
Note that this means you have to have several accounts, a mining account, maybe a booster and the aforementioned Loki, but then again you can get friends, but of course the multi-boxing ganker is not getting friends, he is using alts. So what can a solo player do, well he can hang out with that Loki tyrying to guess which target to sit cloaked by… I can tell you as I have done this it is mostly a waste of time as they gank in another system…
ECCM scripts are a prefect counter. And ECM is chance based so rather weak and of course he at least admitted that n+1 is also a counter.
Here we go, to avoid ganking you must multi-box…, does he even realise how stupid that is?
The key balance in terms of ganking has to be at the level of a player with a single account, and this shows why most gankers and ganker shrills have no idea what they are talking about and why ganking is currently quite destructive to this game, especially after the increase in sub cost and the increase in plex.
Uh wasnt the hyperbole comment self-directed?
Yeah it was.
Isn’t it typical that they ignore the issue of balance for solo players again and again and again against multi-boxers, and off they go on silly directions to try to hide that this is an issue. Well at least I don’t look at Ramona’s snide and off topic comments any more, but Scipio is turning into a parody of what he once was.
I will warn you gankers again, this issue of balance on multi-boxers against new single account players is what will kill ganking in this game, you hate what I am saying, but you will see. Don’t say that I did not warn you!
Or perhaps you just weren’t very good at it. Cloaky Loki works fine for me.
Wierd how he doesnt look at what Im saying yet knows what they are.
I mean hes literally been caught basing a rant on a mistake and own it or just make it worse?
Its genuinely sad to see such a snidey weasally liar try to snake his way out now.
I completely agree. The requirement of 5 or 6 omega accounts to kill a single exhumer is totally unbalanced. CCP need to buff ganking.
So were you guarding your own miner, because in the most recent one the mining ship died, and they lost catalysts that were going to die any way. It appears that you managed to stop snuggly guy so well done there, but that was eight days ago and you do this every so often, which is what most people do when AG. The impact you had was like pissing in the sea…
Perfectly fine, because they have to be fitted for tank to require 5 or 6.
I love how G and AG are actually playing the game and theres this one voice screeching “No noooo you are all playing the game wrong!”
You misunderstood what he was saying. He didn’t say that you have to use alts in order to have counter play against gankers. He was trying to convey that, when presented with a choice, players will chose to field another miner, rather than a ship capable of AG.
Besides, even if he did assert that you needed alts in order to manage the risk of ganking, that wouldn’t make it true. I mean, everything gankers say is wrong, unless it suits your narrative. Then that is undoubtedly true, amirite?
Speaking of which, it is extremely easy for solo players to manage the risk of ganking. I do sometimes play solo (especially when playing on alphas… for reasons), so I know for a fact that solo players with low character skills can deal with the threat of ganking just fine.
Since I see now it could be ambiguous, yes, the hyperbole comments were with regard to my own immediately preceeding sentence. I know you understood it, but I’ll be charitable and not fault anyone who might have misunderstood.